Quote from: RE on Mar 11, 2026, 09:24 AM

Quote from: Knarf on Mar 11, 2026, 05:00 AMWhat AI did you use? That is a great definition of what is happening...collapse. Did you coach the AI with how you phrased your question or rapport with the AI. That makes such a difference in the way it responds. If you did "coach" it, good job!!! )

No coaching, I just dropped "civilization collapse definition" into Google's search box and clicked on their AI button. This is what it coughed up.

RE

It must have smelled Peter Turchin's crotch at some point.  Elite Overproduction is his thing.  It gave a very impressive response.  It always does on a well traveled road.

* And he is mentioned in # 2

Quote from: RE on Mar 10, 2026, 11:38 PMIf you use this definition, collapse is already here.  6 months from now it still will be, just with a range of new problems arising from this poorly thought out piece of geopolitical buffoonery.  I'm sure your ice maker will still work though.

RE

If you change the definitions of words to mean something else, of course they will fit any circumstances you like. Your first definition was better, and didn't have that "let me explain everything to you like a baby" that AI answers often have.

Too bad doomer folks of yesteryear didn't think more carefully about being less absolute in the moment, they wouldn't have left so many examples around proving that true believers really are that first.

Quote from: TDoS on Mar 11, 2026, 04:02 PMIf you change the definitions of words to mean something else, of course they will fit any circumstances you like. Your first definition was better, and didn't have that "let me explain everything to you like a baby" that AI answers often have.

I didn't change anything.  Blame the AI.

Here's the 1st one:

The collapse of civilization means a complex society rapidly loses its large-scale institutions, cultural identity, and social complexity, leading to decentralization, violence, scarcity, and a regression to simpler, smaller-scale ways of living, often due to factors like war, famine, environmental disaster, or economic failure. It's characterized by a breakdown in governance, trade, and infrastructure, potentially leaving behind remnants of the past and forcing survivors into new, simpler societal structures or absorption by stronger groups

More concise, lacks the detail of #2.  They don't conflict though.

RE

QuoteBut at the same time, I think you should go to enormous lengths to avoid going to war unless you absolutely have to. But Israel has the opposite view. It lives by the sword. And I think if you live by the sword, you turn yourself into a modern version of Sparta, the end result is not going to be happy.

🚌 🍿  And here we are watching it happen.  Riding in the back seat of the bus eating popcorn while Bibi Netanyahu drives the bus.

In my line of work I deal with lots of middle-east clients (not Iranians those are avoided like the plague). What I hear, and this is second hand information from the bankers, is that there are more rockets, drones hitting targets than the Western media would have you believe.

UAE is being hit pretty hard but the government has attempted to put a brave face and the party line is to say it is all under control. People of UAE seem to be adopting this line to avoid any trouble. Reading between the lines things aren't so rosy. In other places like Kuwait they are more openly apprehensive about the amount of damage being done.

Our hub in UAE is closed and I have heard that some staff member's home in UAE got attacked my a drone and another experienced a near miss. Doesn't sound all pleasant.

Saying that I do feel the US will likely stop given attacking given they have little appetite in driving oil prices through the roof. Once America stops I am sure they will rein Israel in. Trump has never given a clear reason for this attack so it will be easier for him to claim victory given his he never defined what his objective was.

monsta, good to see you.

The lack of news proves to anybody interested that there are more rockets and drones hitting targets than we are told.  Americans unfortunately in general are not yet interested.

Iran's strategy will to make it hard, and expensive on gulf states to maintain their alliances with America.  They will continue to hit Israel and the gulf states to make it impossible to do business.  As they should.

When Iran has engendered the regime change the world desperately needs, and people rise up against tyranny. Iran can stop with the missiles, but not before.  The reason is simple.  Israel can't be trusted and does not want peace.  America is bought and paid for by Israel, and unlike other presidents who had more brains. Trump took Bibi's bait.  As long as Trump is in power America cannot be trusted.  Not for a minute or an inch.

Iran needs to cause pain because pain is the only way to stop our tyrants.

It's pretty much a given that FSoA state controlled media would downplay the Iranian retaliation to make it appear as unsuccessful as possible.  I'll also agree Trumpolini will go ahead and declare Victory, not the least of the reasons being they are running short on missiles to counter Iranian drones.  His declaration of victory also doesn't mean the Iranians surrender, and I doubt they'll let any shipping move through the straight until they get paid reparations, which of course El Trumpo won't do.

RE

Quotewhich of course El Trumpo won't do.

He can't pay reparations and claim that he kicked butt.  He will have to disguise it as investing in Iran.  Some sort of rebranding.  But Iran will not cooperate with Trump.  It is not in their interest to do so.

Seems pretty simple to me.  The only way to stop this war is to stop Trump.  Impeach his ass.

Right now he is claiming all this is a "short-term excursion" and that the U.S. has already "wiped every single force in Iran out."

More shit comes out of his mouth than comes out of his ass.  And it is known that plenty of shit comes out of Trump's ass.  Trump talks like a 7 year old child. : "wiped every single force in Iran out." really dude?  Is that even remotely presidential?  No it is not.


Children think death is not real.

"wiped every single force in Iran out."

Trump thinks like a child and he pretends death is not real.  Or Trump does not care about other people.

Which is it?

Both are true.  And both are a consequence of Trump's high-octane daddy issues.


When is this mad pony going to be reigned in?

* At his own father's funeral, Trump spoke almost entirely about himself and his own 'achievements'.  Currently  the White House is beginning to talk about "The Great Persian Reconstruction" even as active strikes continue.

Gas prices in the Seattle area are surging as international conflict in Iran disrupts oil shipments and creates market uncertainty. According to AAA data, the statewide average for a gallon of gas has increased by almost 60 cents over the past month.

The price spike has pushed averages across the Puget Sound region significantly higher. As of Monday morning, average prices were recorded at $4.88 in King County, $4.67 in Snohomish County, and $4.69 in Pierce County, according to AAA.

Gas prices go up and Trump gets richer as Bibi does ethnic cleansing as 100,000 people have to move out of south Lebanon under threat of Death. U.S. tax dollars are helping it happen.

Trump has to go.  The longer Trump acts out, the more people will die.  As he degrades, Trump's rage becomes ever more random.  Trump's death lottery is coming for you.  This is no joke.  People are going up in smoke.  Six months ago what is happening now was a mad fantasy.  Now as the mad fantasy comes true ask yourself what could be true in six more months.