Quote from: TDoS on Mar 14, 2026, 07:49 PM

Quote from: RE on Mar 14, 2026, 01:08 AMGiven this reality, what would you suggest to remedy the situation?  You have an alternative I haven't thought of?
RE

Replace every Republicrat with a Democan at mid-terms? That would certainly allow impeachment, but more importantly enough of a swing in the Senate to convict this time.

We could be zombies by then.  And there will be thousands, perhaps millions that will certainly be turning to dust.

QuoteThe question isn't whether Trump is clueless about the war in Iran, it's why

Clueless is as clueless does.  If Trump moves against the Kharg Island Iranian oil terminal, then all the terminals in the gulf will burn and nobody gets any oil.  For Iran it will be a smart move because there will be no occupying of Iran by American troops with the world in a global depression.

Anyone who does not know the reason for this warr was to raise oil prices is an idiot.

RE

I had to post this article because as soon as I saw Wright's hands up.  The meme flashed in front of my eyes.

Quote from: RE on Mar 15, 2026, 01:17 PM

DAILYKOS.COM 2026-03-15

Horror! Trump's Comments about Oil Price Rise Is Starting to Freak Out Oil Industry Executives!

Politico reports that oil industry executives are freaking out about Trump’s remarks about rising oil prices being a boon to America.  Without realizing it, Trump has pulled back the curtain to point at one of his many powerful donors — the fossil fuel industry — with his politically stupid comments.  Basically, the oil industry wants to keep up what they have been doing to America since the Arab Oil Embargo of the early 70’s:  reap huge profits by gouging Americans at the fuel pump.  But they don’t want all the dummies in the public to put two and two together.

Anyone who does not know the reason for this warr was to raise oil prices is an idiot.

RE

Oil companies did not start this war, but now that they have one they will raise prices.  And for them the law of gravity may not apply.  What goes up may not come down. 

Higher prices can stimulate oil business activities in Venezuela.  This is classic Trump.  When Trump fucks up he first blames other people and then repackages his defeat so that he can call it a win.  Failure rebranded.  Operation Epstein Fury mayhem solves many of Trump's troubles.  He can repackage himself.  No longer the convicted felon compulsive lying pedophile; Trump becomes the new Andrew Jackson.


Bringing with him a brand new trail of tears.

Quote from: K-Dog on Mar 15, 2026, 02:56 PMOil companies did not start this war

You sure about that?  Remember, right after Vz Trumpolini met with Oil CEOs and they told him they were not interested in developing it.  I could easily see one of them saying "It would be a different story of course if Iranian or Saudi Oil flow was interrupted by a war with Israel."  Then HRH Trump calls up Bibi on the hot line and suggests he deep six the Ayatollah.

RE

You don't think that they would know all the port facilities on the south side of the gulf will go up in flames?  People with any brains have been able to figure out that hitting tankers is unnecessary if you hit Ras Tanura with a few missiles.  I can't believe I am the only one who has figured this out.  The oil execs would know the risks.  But you may have a point.  Trump's ears hear the words he wants to hear, and sometimes that does not match what was said.

Yea, right.  The FSoA Navy won't go in there because it's too risky, & Trumpolini expects the Eurotrash to do it?  For a war he started and didn't so much as give them a heads-up on?  The same folks he has been dropping punitive tariffs on?

I'm getting a little tired of these military adventures being called "wars".  Wars are where people fight each other.  These things are just Bombing Campaigns.  Trumpolini wants to win a war with no casualties,  where only the other guys get killed.  Problem is, simply destroying property and killing mostly civilians doesn't win anything.  You have to actually take over the machinery of state and run the place, and that takes people.  No matter how long they bomb they can't win.  They'll flatten Tehran, but that just makes it harder for anyone to govern the country.  For the place to become a going concern again, the destroyed infrastructure will need to be rebuilt, and that will be even more expensive and time consuming than the bombing campaign.  It's ridiculous.

RE

Pussy war?  An ethnic cleansing?  It is anything but an 'adventure', and I particularly loath 'Kinetic Response'.


A pussy started it, that is for fucking sure.

Quote from: K-Dog on Mar 16, 2026, 05:18 PMPussy war?  An ethnic cleansing?  It is anything but an 'adventure', and I particularly loath 'Kinetic Response'.

OK, how about "Military Clusterfuck"?

RE

Yesterday I said the port facilities would go up in flames.  Trump pushed, messed with Kharg Island and Trump was sent a message for it.



Total failure.  Iran can hold the whole world hostage and there is nothing Trump can do about it except take his lumps.









The honorable thing to do would be for Trump to go Japanese.












Everybody is lining up to make a deal with Trump.

Quote from: RE on Mar 16, 2026, 05:27 PM

Quote from: K-Dog on Mar 16, 2026, 05:18 PMPussy war?  An ethnic cleansing?  It is anything but an 'adventure', and I particularly loath 'Kinetic Response'.

OK, how about "Military Clusterfuck"?

RE

What we have is a modern siege.  Once upon a time when a warlike state invaded another nation for plunder and raw materials they could only stay for a period of time dictated by the agricultural cycle.  In ancient times the majority of soldiers were peasant farmers.  An army that stayed afield too long risked total collapse of the food supply at home.  The harvest and sowing seasons could not be ignored.

This relates, if the shutdown lasts into April the economic hit will shift from short term shock to systemic collapse.  Oil is the lifeblood of modernity.

It is a war for sure.  All Iran has to do is wait for Trump to be ripped apart by his own people since Trump is not man enough to go Japanese.  There is no way Trump can spin his murderous blunder into a win.  This is Trump's Waterloo.

Hey America, How does it feel to be Israel's bitch.




America watches through a keyhole while Bibi and Trump have gay sex.  America the Cuk.  Nothing but higher prices, and a world full of disgust and hate for America.  Iran was no threat to America.  None at all.  For murderous Israel, America sacrifices.

America gains nothing from any of this.




Some of MAGA feels betrayed.