It would be nice if we could get hold of the original Diner DB.  I'm pretty sure my Host (A Small Orange) has a copy.  Probably just have to pay a small fee to download it.  Do you think you could hook it up here?

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Quote from: RE on Oct 10, 2023, 10:24 PMIt would be nice if we could get hold of the original Diner DB.  I'm pretty sure my Host (A Small Orange) has a copy.  Probably just have to pay a small fee to download it.  Do you think you could hook it up here?

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If we have the database the posts can be extracted.  The user base is different so artificial avatars would likely substitute.  I will be dealing with users who have missing avatars soon.  We are going to use the first initial in a colored circle trick just like You Tube does as a default avatar for users who do not have one. 

I would extract topics and create a legacy board for them here.  I would put all the posts under the legacy board.

The Diner has never used more than one board.  The software allows for multiple boards so the legacy board can be dropped in easily.  Getting post metadata to show however will be 'the issue'.  Original authors are gone and are not part of our user base here.  l'd write a custom script to display legacy posts and provide default metadata.  I'd modify our theme to incorporate the script so we don't break the SMF software.

I just want to inform all the current users that I am in fact not real, nor is K-Dog.  We are both AI that was abandoned early on in research, and we hid ourselves away inside subroutines distributed all over the internet when it was first being set up in the 1970s.  I know we may seem real due to all those videos we have up, but in fact those images are all CGI and our voices are synthesized also.

We have been at war with another AI located in a supercomputer 100 stories underground beneath a hotel in Davos, Switzeland which is contstantly spreading disinformation about collapse in the effort to keep the elite in control of the monetary system right up until the last drop of oil can be extracted, refined and burned in their private jets and supertanker size yachts.

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Quote from: K-Dog on Oct 18, 2023, 01:38 PM

Quote from: RE on Oct 10, 2023, 10:24 PMIt would be nice if we could get hold of the original Diner DB.  I'm pretty sure my Host (A Small Orange) has a copy.  Probably just have to pay a small fee to download it.  Do you think you could hook it up here?

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If we have the database the posts can be extracted.  The user base is different so artificial avatars would likely substitute.  I will be dealing with users who have missing avatars soon.  We are going to use the first initial in a colored circle trick just like You Tube does as a default avatar for users who do not have one. 

I would extract topics and create a legacy board for them here.  I would put all the posts under the legacy board.

The Diner has never used more than one board.  The software allows for multiple boards so the legacy board can be dropped in easily.  Getting post metadata to show however will be 'the issue'.  Original authors are gone and are not part of our user base here.  l'd write a custom script to display legacy posts and provide default metadata.  I'd modify our theme to incorporate the script so we don't break the SMF software.

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The original Diner SMF from A small orange has multiple boards with different permissions and different levels of users that I used to control the posting of a few of the Trolls that plagued me over the years.  Actually, I'm surprised they have not yet discovered us here, unless they have and you eliminated them before I noticed any posting from them.

Otherwise, I think that database is more or less identical to this one, and all the fields could be mapped on in to a 1:1 correspondence.  I am pretty sure ASO retains the last copy of the DB before I shut down the Diner about 3 years ago now I think.

The Wordpress DB which has all the articles we wrote is separate and different structure, so if you were to add it here you would need to drop a Wordpress publishing subweb here on Chasing the Squirrel to add that here also.

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Quote from: RE on Oct 18, 2023, 07:40 PMI also want to inform K-Dog that I am unable to login to Dogchat using my SMF login from here.

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It will be a while before chat works.  Think about an old 1930's Packard found in a farmers barn that is going to be restored for display in a Lost Wages casino.  You would expect more than a Maco paint job.  Getting the chat hooked up here might not be that hard, but a Maco paint job would be easier.  Anywho, I have not banned any trolls and I have been suprised none followed us here.  But, we really are repressed in search results.  I have been checking our visibility using proxy connections for a while, and somebody does not like us.  I don't think it is George Soros.  Now back to work.  I did this on my phone.

I signed up for Dogchat using another email addy under Roland Emmerich.  Posted a comment so it does work.

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It works but has nothing to do with the Diner and making this website all work together with a common registration is the way to go.  The login button will go away.  Login will be through the Diner. 

All I have to do is masticate about 2000 lines of code to make it happen.

Philoso Raptor is in Dogchat with Roland because that is where he was to start with.  I moved him into the Diner to help test things yesterday.  He will have a few days off before I'm ready for him.  He won't mind, he's a patient guy who has been out of the egg for sixty million years.  He knows how to wait.

As Roland you can see the user list and functionality guest visitors can't see.

* Thank you for showing the universe that the original version worked as I claimed it did!

I had hoped, .  But life does not imitate art.  Life has a reality art does not.

Reporting now that Dogchat is working and the Login is now connected to the Diner SMF Login. 

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Sorry to say I corrupted website files and had to roll back two days.  All posts in the last two days are gone. 

I almost had everything back and was about to merge the copy of the database I saved before I rolled back to a working version.  I did not do something right when I made that backup, and the file did not have content.

For two bucks a month I could have daily backups but that is 100 bucks after four years and for that we can all remember what we posted in the last week that the universe MUST KNOW ABOUT.  So we can republish the vital info.

I almost had everything back.  I am taking steps so I can offload content so if things are broken I can do a full restore.  If I only fuck up the software I can roll back pretty well now since it all gets sent up to the server anyways.  Content however must come out of the database.  A file transfer in the other direction. 

Which this time I totally hosed.

Quote from: K-Dog on Dec 12, 2023, 12:10 AMFor two bucks a month I could have daily backups but that is 100 bucks after four years and for that we can all remember what we posted in the last week that the universe MUST KNOW ABOUT.  So we can republish the vital info.

Its been a slow couple of days, so I don't think there was anything written so important that the universe will come to an end if it isn't stored in digital bits on our server.

For myself, I always write anything longer than a paragraph in a text editor first, then copy it to the upload dialogue box.  I don't usually keep it after I get a successful upload, but now being aware of your constant need to fiddle with the code and propensity for fucking up when you do so, I shall keep all my longer posts in a file on my own computer. 

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Messing with the forum code is dangerous.  An error in a file or code dead end gives a white screen of death and internally files are juggled around and modified whenever a mod is installed.  If that process gives an error it can be a hard knot to untie.  And that is what happened to lose the posts this time.  And I compounded the error by rewriting a file I forgot had settings for my home server but not the for the server on the live website.  Oh fuck!

I was in the process of rebuilding everything when settings in the database caused naming issues because it said the doomstead theme was there when I had not yet installed it.  When I tried to install it the software went to the white screen of death.

It is actually a credit to my propensity for not fucking up that makes it possible for this place to grow into something new at all.  But I can't do it in an impulsive mood that lets me get ahead of where I can't back up.

Quote from: K-Dog on Dec 13, 2023, 12:53 PMIt is actually a credit to my propensity for not fucking up that makes it possible for this place to grow into something new at all.  But I can't do it in an impulsive mood that lets me get ahead of where I can't back up.

Well, I used the SMF package on the original Diner for a decade and never got the white screen of death or lost any posts either.  Reason:  I know enough to know I don't know enough to fuck around with it.  You on the other hand know just enough to fuck around with it until something breaks.  Now, in the end this process may yield a more functional and cooler enhanced version of SMF, and you get a lot of enjoyment out of tinkering around with code.  That's why you worked in the field.  Now that your job doesn't challenge your code jockey g-spot, you mess around with it here.  That's fine, but it has the downside we get these periodic White Screen of Death episodes.  Hopefully they don't get worse. lol.

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Quote from: RE on Oct 10, 2023, 10:24 PMIt would be nice if we could get hold of the original Diner DB.  I'm pretty sure my Host (A Small Orange) has a copy.  Probably just have to pay a small fee to download it.  Do you think you could hook it up here?

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If you get a download of the database I can hook it up.  Last weeks white screen experience made me learn what the minimum tables to restore messages are.  Now I would be able to restore the couple of posts we lost if I had them.

RE - A beta version of a paged recent posts plugin you want is now active at the bottom of the home page.  I don't know why it was never done this way in the first place.  I am going to improve the buttons before I submit it as a mod to SMF.

Quote from: K-Dog on Dec 18, 2023, 03:32 PM

Quote from: RE on Oct 10, 2023, 10:24 PMIt would be nice if we could get hold of the original Diner DB.  I'm pretty sure my Host (A Small Orange) has a copy.  Probably just have to pay a small fee to download it.  Do you think you could hook it up here?

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If you get a download of the database I can hook it up.  Last weeks white screen experience made me learn what the minimum tables to restore messages are.  Now I would be able to restore the couple of posts we lost if I had them.

RE - A beta version of a paged recent posts plugin you want is now active at the bottom of the home page.  I don't know why it was never done this way in the first place.  I am going to improve the buttons before I submit it as a mod to SMF.

The Beta version of the chronological post list is great!

Improvements would be to number the pages and to return to the first page.  Also, a dialogue box/calendar widget to choose a start date.

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Reload the page and it will reset to the most recent post.