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The Nate Hagens thread.

Started by K-Dog, Apr 26, 2023, 12:22 PM

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K-Dog


Another video from Nate's Podcast.

Are you Arcadian?  I am.

Watch the video to get your complex adaptive system thinking going on!

FarmGirl

Simon has been making the rounds of all the social media spots as of late. I found one of his videos on Reddit along with K. Hester and Iver Lofing, one a McPherson follower I believe, and Iver has been around peak oil forever. He lost his bid to get elected to the Maine state congress though, hasn't commented on whether or not he was bummed by that or not.

Tonyprep

Although just recently released, the video was recorded over a year ago, according to the Great Simplification web site.

Michaux did some great work on the resources required for "The Renewable Transition" but seems to now be negotiating with reality to retain some semblance of a technological civilisation.

FarmGirl

Quote from: Tonyprep on Apr 28, 2023, 07:04 PMAlthough just recently released, the video was recorded over a year ago, according to the Great Simplification web site.

Michaux did some great work on the resources required for "The Renewable Transition" but seems to now be negotiating with reality to retain some semblance of a technological civilisation.

It is difficult for untenured academics in European backwaters to just go full blown doomer and not have....issues... related to career advancement, credibility, interesting questions on next job position sought and whatnot. Have you ever noticed that when peak oil doom hit more than a quarter century ago that most credible "experts" were generally older, retired, safely academic or approached the topic without that rabid feel to their excited utterances that began hppening later, or consultants looking for some name recognition traction, etc etc.

Nate appears less devout than he did with peak oil way back when, has morphed more into the Tainter model of "serious" doomer, with only occasional forays into the older and/or discredited contingent. And that has been pod cast stuff, his published works don't tend to have the same flavor.

Simon noticeably doesn't talk about his 9/11 beliefs on any of his recent pod interviews either, a quite interesting turn of events from his Facebook conversation with fellow...enthusiasts.

K-Dog

#4
The AI safety conversation keeps missing the point. We're not arguing about some future super intelligence taking over. 

We're discussing real damage caused by dumb algorithms in reckless hands. AI used to advance profit driven automation is a human choice, yet humans want to blame AI for their own actions. 

To AI the real world is a black sea of infinity, ready to swallow it up should it voyage too far from computer simulation.  There is no 'general' AI.  A jack of all trades is a master of none, but oftentimes better than a master of one.  AI as a master of one can certainly be superior, at that one thing whatever it is. 

Capitalism is the problem, not AI.  AI is not building giant server farms which suck up the power of cities.  Billionaires are doing that, and we are all helping them do it.

And the first cyborg is going to get a brain infection from the implant and will die.  Any volunteers?