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Winter Superstorm Fern bringing Snowmageddon

Started by RE, Jan 24, 2026, 05:03 AM

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TDoS

Quote from: RE on Jan 29, 2026, 04:26 PMOh, snowstorms aren't doom, just doom practice.

For J6P maybe. "OMG!!!!! I MIGHT RUN OUT OF BEER IF THE ROADS ARE CLOSED!

It is unfortunate that a relatively simple event....a bunch of snow....kills so many people just...because. Doom practice involves.....roving bands of MZBs, gunfire of some sort, small communities being overrun, and those that defend themselves successfully from said MZBs. Survivalists in general are probably okay, short of the roving bands of MZBs anyway. Certainly some kind of practice....I was poaching one fall after a snow that would cause trouble for not just people but animals, the snow made me quiet, white everywhere meant brown blobs of whitetails could be spotted easily against a white background and I happened to have been in my prime as La Longue Carabine. Didn't need it though. I got within 20' of the first without any of them (it was a herd, all others concealed behind leftover trees tops from a year or two past lodging) knowing I was there, and La Longue Carabine just WISHED for a fast firing 30-06 like I had that day.

I think those 3 whitetails were the last I ever filled the freezer with, the winter before I left for college.

Snowstorms are mostly snowstorms. They are only practice doom for those so unprepared they don't know food even exists outside of grocery stores. Or they make a mistake. Mistakes in cold weather, like being unprepared on even little things that normally wouldn't matter, can certainly be deadly events to the individuals who make them. A nice tightly sealed house...and a malfunctioning kerosene heater would do the trick. 
 
Quote from: REActually, winter is one thing industrial civilization improved in terms of survivability.  Lots more people died in winter in preindustrial times.

RE

I can buy that. But back then, the common flu was probably something that killed many, polio, small pox...that was a GOOD one for pre-industrial times. I wonder who wins that dieoff scorecard, small pox versus winter storms...throw in hurricanes even.....my bet would still be on smallpox. That managed to decimate entire populations.

RE

Quote from: TDoS on Jan 29, 2026, 05:47 PMI can buy that. But back then, the common flu was probably something that killed many, polio, small pox...that was a GOOD one for pre-industrial times. I wonder who wins that dieoff scorecard, small pox versus winter storms...throw in hurricanes even.....my bet would still be on smallpox. That managed to decimate entire populations.

Oh no doubt, disease was a big killer in preindustrial era, but it got way worse at the beginning as populations moved from rural to city living to work in factories.  Poor sanitation and high density led to epidemics in the cities.  Rural populations usually were spared.  It wasn't until the late 1800s when microbes were identified and antibiotics discovered that got turned around.

Women dying in childbirth also a big killer in the old days, and common infections from injuries. That got worse with industrial accidents, as well as death by fire in factories.  That has improved but remains a problem in countries with low safety regulations where capitalists exploit the cheap labor.

Let's not forget the BIGGEST killer of them all in the industrial era, car accidents.

Car accidents are a major, leading cause of death both in the United States and worldwide. With over 40,000 traffic fatalities in the U.S. annually (roughly one every 13 minutes) and over 1 million globally, they are a significant public health crisis
. They are the leading cause of death for children and young adults (ages 5–29) globally and for individuals aged 1 to 54 in the U.S.




RE

TDoS

Quote from: RE on Jan 29, 2026, 11:58 PMLet's not forget the BIGGEST killer of them all in the industrial era, car accidents.

Car accidents are a major, leading cause of death both in the United States and worldwide. With over 40,000 traffic fatalities in the U.S. annually (roughly one every 13 minutes) and over 1 million globally, they are a significant public health crisis
. They are the leading cause of death for children and young adults (ages 5–29) globally and for individuals aged 1 to 54 in the U.S.




RE

Certainly a huge cause of death, industrial era specific, but this one is often related to simple dumbassery, general incompetence, occasional equipment failures. Think.....chainsaw accidents....except at high speed.

But real collapse won't be involving car accidents, maybe horse and buggy accidents, bicycle accidents, punji stick and claymore accidents/fatalities as landowners defend themselves from roving bands of MZBs and whatnot.

Once your definition of collapse shows up, seems like the opportunity for continued large number of cager accidents will be the least of most folks concerns.