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US and Israel carrying out strikes against Iran

Started by RE, Feb 28, 2026, 12:18 AM

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K-Dog


TASNIMNEWS.IR 2026-09-01

US to Face Severe Consequences for Its Latest Acts of Aggression: Iran Armed Forces

The Iranian General Staff vowed crushing blows against the US for latest airstrikes on military sites in Sistan-Balouchestan and Hormozgan, threatening heavy costs if Washington continues malicious regional behavior.

K-Dog

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PRESSTV.CO.UK 2026-09-02

Iran’s surprise strike near Red Sea shatters assumption of safe distance for US bases

The U.S. shifted military assets from the Strait of Hormuz due to vulnerability, but Iran struck Jordan’s strategic Camp Titin in retaliation, showing it can reach distant U.S. positions; reports note casualties and medevac.

Twenty missiles means people died.  That's what you get for bombing a wedding in Iran.  What goes around comes around.  Trump gets his nightly bomb porn and Americans die.  For Trump it's a double rush.

TDoS

Quote from: K-Dog on Sep 02, 2026, 07:36 PMTwenty missiles means people died.  That's what you get for bombing a wedding in Iran.  What goes around comes around.  Trump gets his nightly bomb porn and Americans die.  For Trump it's a double rush.
I presume that this statement displays your disgust with bombings and American power projection regardless of which head of which party happens to be doing the bombing?
 
As something that has taken place under all sorts of administrations, maybe this kind of "bomb here, bomb there, bomb where we want" isn't a political thing, but is just.....American? One of those quirks of how we think..... 'MURIKA! LOVE IT OR LEAVE IT! BOMBS AWAY BECAUSE WE CAN!!!

One party just makes it easier to see, and blame, and has a higher propensity for it than another. Which party was the Vietnam gang? Oh yeah! The other guys! And which party ended that debacle? Oh yeah, the other guys! Maybe party doesn't even matter?

Seems to me that both are just two faces of the same coin at the end of the day. And the really amazing thing is Americans are so slack jawed silly and busy cheering for their favorite team that they don't even know that the team they cheer for is backed by the same oligarchs who happily switch sides based on who promises to do them the most favors when in office.

Anyone want to lay odds that if a new party comes around (Democratic Socialism perhaps being the local favorite), takes over, that the game would remain the same? Becuse the American political system is no longer about the teams themselves, as they are just  distraction funded by the corporate interests?

Of course, folks will say whatever new team comes along ISN'T this way, them being new and different and all. But as long as we are talking about 'MURICA!, odds are, same old same old.

K-Dog

QuoteI presume that this statement displays your disgust with bombings and American power projection regardless of which head of which party happens to be doing the bombing?

True that.  And people not giving a shit that we have a serial killer running the country only turns up my disgust knob.

RE

It has always been the position of the Diner that the entire Political System of the FSoA is thoroughly corrupt and that the political parties, the politicians and elections are Window Dressing designed to give the Illusion the general population controls how the country is governed, when in fact the Real Power is held by a small minority of people who run the banking system, large corporations and hedge funds and who historically have used the FSoA Military as the Enforcement Arm of the Global Racket known as "Capitalism".







Our current POTUS main contribution to the long and sordid history of Capitalism in the FSoA has been to take Corruption to hitherto unimaginable levels and to openly flout the law so brazenly that even the Robber Barrons of the 19th Century have been put to shame.  The Repugnant Party has been complicit in this, enabling wholesale theft while completely ignoring even the Window Dressing of Democratic Ideals and moral leadership.

The systemic corruption runs so deep in both parties there is NO HOPE that we can ever find our way to what once were held as the ideals of what the country was founded on, though never actually were put into practice.  Only Revolution and the complete destruction of our current political and economic systems and rebuilding from scratch could right the ship, but until the current system crashes from within, this won't happen.  Control over the instruments of repression and propaganda are too tightly held by the power elite for that to happen.  Until it does, we are Doomed to further stupid wars which will enrich a few while accelerating the suffering of the many.

RE

TDoS

Quote from: K-Dog on Sep 03, 2026, 06:23 AM
QuoteI presume that this statement displays your disgust with bombings and American power projection regardless of which head of which party happens to be doing the bombing?

True that.  And people not giving a shit that we have a serial killer running the country only turns up my disgust knob.

Well, we've had serial killers doing it before, maybe it is just oneof those oldschool American traditions? Which Presidents knocked off the most Natives do you think? Andrew Jackson maybe? Founder and member of the modern Democratic Party that one.

TDoS

Quote from: REIt has always been the position of the Diner that the entire Political System of the FSoA is thoroughly corrupt and that the political parties, the politicians and elections are Window Dressing designed to give the Illusion the general population controls how the country is governed...

When you say it like that it just gives me the SHIVERS on its definitive perspective on the matter. Visions of Oceania abound.

RE

Quote from: TDoS on Sep 03, 2026, 08:12 AM
Quote from: REIt has always been the position of the Diner that the entire Political System of the FSoA is thoroughly corrupt and that the political parties, the politicians and elections are Window Dressing designed to give the Illusion the general population controls how the country is governed...

When you say it like that it just gives me the SHIVERS on its definitive perspective on the matter. Visions of Oceania abound.

Which region?

Regions of Oceania

Australasia: Includes Australia and New Zealand.

Melanesia: Includes Papua New Guinea, Fiji, and the Solomon Islands.

Micronesia: Includes Guam, Kiribati, and Palau.

Polynesia: Includes Samoa, Tonga, and Hawaii.


RE

K-Dog

Quote from: TDoS on Sep 03, 2026, 08:03 AMWell, we've had serial killers doing it before, maybe it is just oneof those oldschool American traditions? Which Presidents knocked off the most Natives do you think? Andrew Jackson maybe? Founder and member of the modern Democratic Party that one.

There is a definite rhyme between Jackson and Trump.  My brain tries to compare them frequently to find a link.  I want to trurn it off.  But while both are evil's product of messed up early years, Jackson was not an incompetent fool as Trump certainly is.  And with Trump, derangement has more of a biological basis.

K-Dog

QuoteAt this moment, for example, in 1984 (if it was 1984), Oceania was at war with Eurasia and in alliance with Eastasia. In no public or private utterance was it ever admitted that the three powers had at any time been grouped along different lines. Actually, as Winston well knew, it was only four years since Oceania had been at war with Eastasia and in alliance with Eurasia. But that was merely a piece of furtive knowledge which he happened to possess because his memory was not satisfactorily under control.

He means this Oceania

RE

Quote from: TDoS on Sep 03, 2026, 08:03 AM
Quote from: K-Dog on Sep 03, 2026, 06:23 AM
QuoteI presume that this statement displays your disgust with bombings and American power projection regardless of which head of which party happens to be doing the bombing?

True that.  And people not giving a shit that we have a serial killer running the country only turns up my disgust knob.

Well, we've had serial killers doing it before, maybe it is just oneof those oldschool American traditions? Which Presidents knocked off the most Natives do you think? Andrew Jackson maybe? Founder and member of the modern Democratic Party that one.

As I pointed out, which political party they come from is generally irrelevant, since they don't run the real show anyhow.  The Democrats have better ideals though, particularly the Democratic Socialists.  They just don't live up to the ideals.  The Repugnants are morally bankrupt, and live up to that.

RE

RE

Orwell's novels were very prescient.  It just took a little longer to get there than he imagined.  Timelines on predicting the future can be tricky.  He was about 40 years early.

RE

TDoS

Quote from: RE on Sep 03, 2026, 12:23 PM
Quote from: TDoS on Sep 03, 2026, 08:12 AMVisions of Oceania abound.

Which region?

Regions of Oceania
Australasia: Includes Australia and New Zealand.
Melanesia: Includes Papua New Guinea, Fiji, an the Solomon Islands.
Micronesia: Includes Guam, Kiribati, and Palau.
Polynesia: Includes Samoa, Tonga, and Hawaii.

RE

Orwells, obviously.Come on folks, we're talking classics here.

Political geography of Nineteen Eighty-Four

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The three fictional superstates of the dystopian novel Nineteen Eighty-Four are Oceania, Eurasia, and Eastasia.

In George Orwell's 1949 dystopian novel Nineteen Eighty-Four, the world is divided into three superstates: Oceania, Eurasia and Eastasia, which are all fighting each other in a perpetual war in a disputed area mostly located around the equator. All that Oceania's citizens know about the world is whatever the Party wants them to know, so how the world evolved into the three states is unknown; and it is also unknown to the reader whether they actually exist in the novel's reality, or whether they are a storyline invented by the Party to advance social control.




TDoS

Quote from: K-DogHe means this Oceania

K-Dog wins the prize! Geez, I thought us folks who don't like being censored but will happily do it to others when given the opportunity would know this hands down! It is straight from an really old playbook!

TDoS

Quote from: RE on Sep 03, 2026, 12:35 PMThe Democrats have better ideals though, particularly the Democratic Socialists. 
RE

Interesting outsiders counter opinion as to the value of this political group put up in its own thread.