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Started by K-Dog, Feb 17, 2024, 01:37 PM

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#30
Good thing we don't actually send soldiers to war zones these days, just money and hi tech equipment that doesn't work. lol.  If an army composed of actual FSoA soldiers was required anytime in the forseeable future, they might as well issue body bags instead of uniforms.

In total numbers, they're missing recruitment goals by 50%.  It's particularly bad amongst men, due the sociologists say a crisis in masculinity, lack of motivation to do ANYTHING, WOKEism, educational failure, increasing drug addiction, overdoses and suicides, isolation playing video games, poor health & nutrition and an epidemic of obesity.  Besides that apparently 1/3rd of GenZ male meat packages are now fags. lol.  To be fair 1/3rd of the females are lezbos also.  Does the military still have "don't ask, don't tell" as policy, or is it now OK for the guys to blow each other while showering and the babes to go clam diving?

I'm not sad to see the military can't find decent cannon fodder anymore of course, but the litany of reasons WHY they can't truly speaks to a population that is hopelessly psychologically damaged.  They're not just unfit to be soldiers, they're unfit to do anything at all.

Now, one hopes that we're getting a skewed view of all of Gen Z since it's just the subset of potential grunt level recruits we're talking about, which always has come from the very bottom of the social hierarchy, but they're talking about kids from college here too, who with a degree would be commissioned officers.

Also, if this is the state of the regular army, imagine what the National Guard looks like today, and then imagine what it might be like at the Dem Convention if like in 1968 the Mayor requests 11,000 Nat Guard and 7500 regular army to back up the Chicago PD to maintain order.  :o  :o  :o   It's a clusterfuck waiting to happen.

Often when people point out the awful state we are in here in the FSoA, I will point out that it's not just here, all the industrialized countries suffer from similar problems.  In this case, I'm not gonna do that, because I think this problem, at least the level it has reached in such a large portion of the society is very much an Amerikan problem.  Sure, the Japanese have weirded out GenZ kids too, but I don't think they have the obesity problem we have here too.  I think the Chinese can still find decent cannon fodder for their million man army.

Sociologically speaking, Amerika is leading the way falling off the cliff in a Seneca Collapse.  Our society is a Basket Case.  FUBAR. Fucked Up Beyond All Recognition.

https://www.military.com/daily-news/2024/06/14/armys-recruiting-problem-male.html

The Army's Recruiting Problem Is Male

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K-Dog

#31
QuoteI'm not sad to see the military can't find decent cannon fodder anymore of course, but the litany of reasons WHY they can't truly speaks to a population that is hopelessly psychologically damaged.  They're not just unfit to be soldiers, they're unfit to do anything at all.

Previous generations saw the military as a pragmatic way to launch a working career.  A soldier is highly employable after military service.  They do what they are told like a good wage slave should.  ROTC paid for college and many doctors and dentists with military service signed up to get the education and for no other reason.  The dentists in particular.

Why the fuck would anybody join the U.S. military now.  We treat veterans like shit.  There are no jobs to get trained for.  The newer generations do not hang with conventional education, because again.  The jobs are not there, and being lazy became a virtue.

Walk into stores and grab stuff for free or get killed or maimed for life with no chance of grabbing the brass ring.  What choice makes sense to you?  The pope is a dope and he would tell you the wrong answer.

If a society can't provide, it has no right demanding.  This society is not providing the way it should.


"   I may live badly, but at least I don't have to work to do it.  "

The characters in this movie went on to have kids, and that is who we are really talking about.  We really do have Idiocracy 500 years early.



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It seems there is a Global Shortage of Cannon Fodder.

Military planners are beside themselves with worry, panicked they won't have enough warm bodies to throw in front of the bullets.  The whole concept of an army relies on a commonality of interest and loyalty to inspire the population to want to fight together for something.  The Battle Cry for the Brits as they ran into a hail of bullets was "For King & Country!".  What Gen Z waste-o is going tofeel kinship with #ShitzinPants or Uncle Joe and pride in the cesspool of 21st Century Amerika?

Besides the fact raising a sufficient size army being problematic, with modern weapons systems they would be mowed down as fast as you deploy them.  Nobody would ever get off the beach at Nomandy today.  If Hitler had hypersonic Cruise Missiles, all the landing craft approaching the beach would be blown out of the water before they ever even made the beach.  If Vlad the Impaler wasn't trying to minimize escalation into WWIII, he could easily Carpet Bomb Kiev.

Then there is the REALLY stupid idea of fighting wars with Robot Armies.  WTF will care when the newz comes on the tube "500 American Robots were Killed in Action today fighting 10,000 Chinese Robots who suffered much greater losses.  Over 2500 of the Chinese robots were irreperably damaged.  The Chinese still took Taiwan though, because the remaining 4500 Amerikan Robots malfunctioned."

https://www.vox.com/world-politics/355547/soldiers-shortage-demographics-population-conscription

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Firstthey manufacture a global crisis over the falling birthrate.  Admittedly, this does pose economic difficulties, but the world clearly is overpopulated with Homo Sap meat packages, and reducing population voluntarily by having fewer babies is clearly a better option than raising the death rate, which few people will volunteer for.

Now however, the global paranoia propaganda machine is busy not just in the FSoA but in Europe and Asia also that everybody is running short of soldiers.  Why do we need more if all our "enemies" don't have enough to stage an invasion either?

It's not just soldiers they're short of either, Police forces also are having trouble finding enough thugs to employ to protect the property of the rich.  Without their enforcers, the rich can't maintain the huge chasm in wealth distribution.

Surly used to love to quote Jay Gould, a 19th century Robber Baron who said



This is the real worry.  They can't hire enough muscle.  The suicidal, drug addicted obese Xbox players living in mom's basement aren't interested in working at all, much less beating on people with billy clubs for a crappy paycheck.  They can have a lot more fun killing virtual people in a 1st person shooter game and not break a sweat.

They're getting desperate, and the draft is a last ditch effort to maintain control.  I suspect if/when it is reinstituted, Draft Dodging will become even more common than back in the Vietnam era.


https://theconversation.com/us-kicks-off-debate-on-conscription-as-other-nato-members-introduce-drafts-232458

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K-Dog

QuoteWhy do we need more if all our "enemies" don't have enough to stage an invasion either?

How dare you point that out.  Blasphemy.

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The Crisis of Masculinity has now expanded to a Cultural Crisis with a shrinking military.  Oh, the horror!  We must act to avert this desperate crisis.

https://thehill.com/opinion/national-security/4752675-americas-shrinking-military-is-a-cultural-crisis/

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K-Dog

#36
It is interesting the 'Shrinking Military' author accepts the selective service as a given.  But what do you expect from a major in the fucking army.  He is a gung-ho motherfucker.

I wonder if he knows 'the divine right of kings' is out of favor.  It is kinda a dumb idea now.  It was useful it its time to shut people up. Now people can't swallow that much bullshit at once.  People be half-educated now.

People who take empire as a given:  SUCK

All selective service records should be transferred to flash paper and someone should light a match.

K-Dog

#37

To discuss Israel's holocaust in Gaza, Rania Khalek was joined by journalist Abby Martin.

Serial Killers-R-Us.

Check it out.  Masab Yousef, I'm sure I got the spelling wrong, spouts amusing bullshit.  He makes up his own history.

K-Dog

#38
Senator Lindsey Graham Calls for Direct Attack on Iran's Oil Infrastructure to Halt Terrorism


Madness.  Total madness.  Lindsey Graham  => Seagram,  which Lindsey has obviously had too much of.  You have to move one of the 'a's.  Like Biden, the brain has rotted away.


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K-Dog

#40
Quote from: RE on Jun 13, 2025, 10:56 AMNice timing.  ::)

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cvg72ny4xeyo

Iran is reeling from Israel's unprecedented attack - and it is only the start

RE

This is the line of bullshit:

So what has led to this attack by Israel and why now?

Total Bullshit which reeks to high heaven :

Israel, and several Western countries, suspect that Iran has been secretly working towards what is called "breakout capability", meaning the point of no return in developing a viable nuclear weapon.

Iran denies this and has always insisted that its civil nuclear programme – which has received help from  :o  Russia  :o  – is for entirely peaceful purposes.

Total reality which makes heaven puke :

Israel, and several Western countries, suspect that Iran will be "pissed off" when the Palestinians are pushed into the sea and murdered."

The message goes out that support of the victims will be met with more attacks.

I state the obvious because the obvious is denied.

Holy Pontius Pilate batman, everybody's Conscience went on Autopilot.

K-Dog

#41

Trump and Netanyahu together might have as much smarts as some of the less capable AI models I run on my video card. 

The Motherfuckers have just started WWIII.

That is oil and gas on fire because Israel has attacked Irans' oil and gas.  Now we know what the military parade in font of the White House is really all about.  Trump acting tough, while Israel's relentless airstrikes on Iran escalate beyond military targets.

Donald Trump has declared that the United States stands ready to defend Israel in the event of Iranian retaliation following Israeli airstrikes on Iran.

Prior to Netanyahu's sneak attack on Iran The White House reached out to at least one key Middle Eastern ally to inform them of the Israels' impending strike.

Buy enough Trump-coin and you can start a war.

"We knew everything" about Israel's attack in advance Trump admitted.  The U.S. supplied the weapons now raining destruction on Iran.  The U.S. is already directly involved, helping to stop Iranian missiles.

Since the 2023 Gaza war, U.S. deployments to the Middle East have increased.  Fighter jets (F-35s, F-15s), and stealth bombers (B-2s), are deployed in nearby countries (Saudi Arabia and the UAE).  The U.S. has flown military cargo planes into Israel to deliver supplies and munitions.

The direct hit on Iran's South Pars gas field was no accident.

This is a calculated strike at the Iran economy, and retaliation is certain. Tehran is now threatening to close the Strait of Hormuz.

If this reckless escalation continues, the U.S. Navy will have no choice but to engage in direct combat.  American troops will once again see the sands of the Mid-East.  The ambitions of two bigoted strongmen: Netanyahu, with his apartheid regime, and Trump, whose racism and thirst for chaos is boundless.  Trump violence has returned.

The vile politics of these two men are putting American lives at risk.  Trump's hubris makes him into more of an idiot than he already was.  Would my video card be smart enough not to cut the VA while also starting a war that is certain to use U.S. troops?

I think so, It would.

Deep Workforce Cuts at VA, Pentagon Backed by Republican Spending Bills

Which is more than you can say about Trump.

TDoS

Quote from: K-Dog on Jun 14, 2025, 11:20 AMThe Motherfuckers have just started WWIII.

Yeah...ummm....not quite sure we are THERE yet. The Russians have demonstrated they can't get out of their own way and stomp flat some pesky little neighbor country, so that rules out a nuke power that matters and is occupied being stupid and getting their people killed elsewhere, if Iran had a nuke it would get cracking at using it, and Israel has nukes and the ability to stomp Iran flat pretty easily (and just did) with regular means, and can probably happily keep it up for months if they want to. With the recent demolition of all their air defenses...and military leaders...and quite a few other things of significance....it is unlike interrupting production at South Pars would b the tipping point for a country already nearly defenseless and an enemy quite happy to keep proving it on a daily basis.

But it good for trying to whip up some good ol' fashioned middle eastern drama! And American LNG exports coming online means there is some coin to be made producing NG in the US....us now being the world's largest producer of both oil and gas. And word's largest exporter of LNG. Profits to feed the capitalism beast!

K-Dog

QuoteThe Russians have demonstrated they can't get out of their own way and stomp flat some pesky little neighbor country

Not when it is a well funded proxy war willing to send all the young men of Ukraine to die for a chance exploit that land.  This is true.

Trump says he will continue funding Ukraine's war effort — but he wants something rare in return.  Trump says he wants access to Ukraine's bonanza of rare earth and critical minerals in exchange for the billions of dollars in military aid Washington has been supplying to Kyiv.

And you have not been keeping up with the news.  Russia prevails.

K-Dog

#44
TDoS, this is your link where you posted this graph.


And it is why you are a troll.  You wrote this and I am responding to it.

QuoteAmerican LNG exports coming online means there is some coin to be made producing NG in the US....us now being the world's largest producer of both oil and gas. And word's largest exporter of LNG. Profits to feed the capitalism beast!


Your own graph which you used to counter my assertion that:

➡️ By 2030, approximately 50% of current oil supply will be lost to natural decline.

➡️ By 2035, if demand holds steady, gasoline supply failure becomes imminent.

Just came back to haunt you.  You published clear evidence for decline, yet you pivot into a make America great posture.  Just let let the horses run free.  Prosperity is here for those who ride.  Capitalism is an unstoppable force.  The end result of centuries of progress, and I am a fool for thinking otherwise.  That is your position.  You can find a graph to punch me down with if it suits you.  Because yes, the delusion can be maintained past the midterm elections that we all can have a tiger in the tank.  The miracle of horizontal drilling gives us that much time.

After that the discount at the gas pump you get for buying groceries is going away.  But not tomorrow, and the peak on the graph was your point.  Your point was not tomorrow.  Anne of the Thousand Days we have.

* Because if you are trying to be sarcastic, it isn't working.