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What American Fascism Would Look Like

Started by RE, May 17, 2024, 12:34 PM

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RE

Haven't yet read any of the articles in this series yet, but I can answer the question with 1 word. UGLY.

Considering the improvements that have been made with surveillance technology, "let me see your papers" of the Nazi era would seem like freedom.  I can forsee a law all citizens being required to wear a body cam 24/7, with AI monitoring thee real time audio & video streams for any "Un-Amerikan" activity.  The Diner will go from shadow banning to disappeared.

What American Fascism Would Look Like

https://newrepublic.com/series/37/american-fascism

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K-Dog

#1
The New Republic contends we do not have Fascism now, but that Trump will bring it.  I can't agree.  We already have fascism.  Our defense industry controls the state.  Trump did not start that, and we have a double dip of genocide, war, and exploitation right now.  All with Trump gone.

But if we are getting into sophomoric role play then if Trump gets to be Hitler I want to be Albert Speer.  And if their are allegations of slavery in my factories I will see...


RE

The MIC has been in charge since 1776.  The extermination of the aboriginal occupants, non stop wars from 1812, gunboat opening of Japan by Perry, Roosevelt's Rough Riders, 2 World Wars, Vietnam, MENA.  Militarism doesn't necessarily mean Fascism though. All the colonial powers were Monarchies, not Fascist states.

Fascism has only been a definable political system since the early 1900s.  When did the USA become the FSoA in your opinion?

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RE

Definitely getting risky to be pro-Palestinian and anti-ethnic cleansing.  Protesting now makes you a terrorist.  Don't stand in the way of Trump Casinos on the new Gaza Riviera!  Ship the Palestinians to Somalia.  Load them in Conex and sail them down the Gulf of Suez.

Will Harvard, Yale or Princeton students and faculty grow a pair and stand up in solidarity with Columbia?  Where's the grandchildren of the SDS and the Weathermen?  Not Fascism Lite anymore.



First They Came for Columbia

https://www.thecrimson.com/article/2025/3/14/enos-levitsky-harvard-columbia-trump/

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K-Dog

#4
The Department of Education opened investigations into dozens of universities Friday, part of President Donald Trump's campaign to pressure the higher education world to fall in line with his administration.

But of course Trump does not want the department of education and is shutting it down right?



No, he is turning it into the Gestapo.  Trump hates education, education tells stories he does not lik. trump is big brother and he does not like the original lyrics and must change them to his own.


"Under the spreading chestnut tree,
There we sit both you and me,
Oh, how happy we will be,
Under the spreading chestnut tree."  it used to be.  Now it is Rosebud time for democracy.

"Under the spreading chestnut tree
I sold you and you sold me—
There lie they, and here lie we
Under the spreading chestnut tree."  And everything belongs to the upper class.

The Trump administration has delivered an ultimatum to Columbia University. Permanently end federal funding unless the university cedes control of an international studies department and implements sweeping changes to other campus policies.

The university must immediately place its Middle Eastern, South Asian, and African Studies Department under "academic receivership for a minimum of five years."

No explanation of what academic receivership is but I think we can figure it out.


The Mofo must be fired.  Trump is out of control and deranged.



And the Sultan Of SpaceX has to be taken off the welfare dole.

RE

Basically, the Trump-Musk Dynamic Duo is the White Supremacist Racist goobermint the "Christian" Right Wing fanatics wet dream fantasy come true.  What I find remarkable is that despite all the "checks & balances" we were taught in HS Civics classes protected the Amerikan system of goobermint from being flipped into an authoritarian Dictatorship, it is being completely demolished without so much as a shot being fired.  No military Coup d'Etat, just a non-stop machine gun spread of Executive Orders and POOF!, all the legal rights and Constitutional protections we were taught we had are history.

He's been so successful with this approach on the National level, I'm curious how the rest of the world will react when he moves on to rolling over International law and tries to forcibly relocate the Palestinians and Annex Greenland?  Will all the rest of the countries out there just sit back and let it happen?  He's just about guaranteed to do both these things, he's telegraphed it pretty clearly.

So yea, he needs to be fired, but unless there is a major shift in CONgress, they're not gonna do it. The only other hope would be a Military coup d'etat, or maybe an Asteroid crashing on the White House.

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K-Dog

#6
The first rule of fight club is you don't talk about fight club.  The rampant abuse and broken laws would certainly justify vigilantism in a court. Though the argument might not prevail. Luigi has paved the way.  Much blood is already on the hands of these psychopaths.


Good speech, but the rule is not explicitly stated.


Here is the rule.

Goldernen Oxernen

Quote from: K-Dog on Mar 15, 2025, 02:51 PM


I might take Hemingway if i had 12 weeks to train. Bill Shatner would be very tough, so Chuck Norris would stand in.

K-Dog

#8
Dead guys don't count.  Bill Shatner is the only one of those three still taking in air. 

He is also Canadian and worried about being deported.  I'd say there is a physical resemblance too.    Resemblance in height and weight.  The nose is different.



* Nightmare at 20,000 Feet, October 11, 1963, William Shatner played Robert Wilson.


K-Dog

Quote from: K-Dog on May 17, 2024, 03:51 PMThe New Republic contends we do not have Fascism now, but that Trump will bring it.  I can't agree.  We already have fascism.  Our defense industry controls the state.  Trump did not start that, and we have a double dip of genocide, war, and exploitation right now.  All with Trump gone.

But if we are getting into sophomoric role play then if Trump gets to be Hitler I want to be Albert Speer.  And if their are allegations of slavery in my factories I will see...





I have contemplated matching up our current actors to their historical counterparts.  I was thinking Elon matches up with Albert Speer for a while, but perhaps this is a better match.


RE

Cross off Freedom of the Press along with Right to Assembly and Birthright Citizenship.  You have Free Speech as long as you support Trump though.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cvge4l109r3o

Add deportations without Due Process and arrests and detention without criminal charges.

Time to go international!  Land the Marines on the beaches of Greenland!  Bomb Montreal back to the Stone Age!  Make Amerika Great Again!

Trump moves to close down Voice of America

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cvge4l109r3o

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RE

Definitely going to see a brain drain under the Trump-Musk Fascist Oligarchy.  It will be interesting also to see what else bessides being anti-genocide gets you deported?  Against abortion?  Fossil fuels?  Off to El Salvador!

When the physicists need burner phones, that's when you know America's changed

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/mar/29/when-the-physicists-need-burner-phones-thats-when-you-know-americas-changed

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