Figure out how to live in the worst-case. 
Or play Rambo in the woods, and max out your privilege. 

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Started by K-Dog, Jun 10, 2023, 12:51 PM

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Surly1

Quote from: RE on Jun 14, 2023, 04:12 AMI doubt more than a handful of people have ever read the full 6000 pages of technical reports and spreadsheets detailing what is known about climate change, I certainly haven't.  I haven't even read the 40 page summary of the summary, as is probably true amongst most politicians who vote on climate policy and even most reporters who write on climate topics.  However, you don't need to have read it to know that a political document like that is completely meaningless, because nobody is going to pay attention to it when formulating policy that will actually be implemented and enforced.  The only thing anybody in a position of power cares about is whether the policy is economically and politically feasible to pursue.

The problem is that there IS no policy that can feasibly be followed that would actually make a significant difference in the trajectory of climate change.  As Diners know, Money is just a proxy for Energy consumption, and there is no way to reduce energy consumption without either lowering the standard of living or significantly decreasing the population.  People generally don't willingly choose to live poorer, with the exception of a few monks and luddites.  Population doesn't begin to decrease until it is no longer economically feasible for it to increase, which is happening now but not at a rate fast enough to put the brakes on overall energy consumption, or even slow it down all that much.

The Magic Bullet of Cheap, Clean & Renewable Energy doesn't exist now  and probably never will for Thermodynamic reasons, but it is a politically sellable idea the typical technophile pins their hopium filled brains on, particularly when fed a steady stream of Marvel Comics SciFi that uses all sorts of magic devices that violate all the laws of physics to make characters like X-Men Mutants and Avengers wild & crazy galactic adventures seem possible to the couch potatoes stuffing cheese doodles into their mouths with one hand, a VR headset on their heads and the other hand on the joystick, keyboard or trackball of the latestgaming computer.  The average homo sap believes all this stuff is possible just as prior generations bought the idea Jesus could walk on water or Moses parted the Red Sea.  Hucksters like Elon Musk and Jeff Bezos capitalize on this nonsense and waste further resources sending the filthy rich on space vacations to nowhere.

For the few of us not brainwashed by all this nonsense, we can just sit back and enjoy the show while we wait for the next shoe to drop on the road to the collapse of industrial civilization.

RE

This sounds like OG, vintage RE. He's baaa-a-a-a-ck!

Surly1

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The link below takes the reader to Albert Bates' blog and a remarkable re-examination of the life and times of Ted Kaszynski:

]Eulogy for the Unabomber



After a discussion into the life of John Brown and an implicit comparison ("It took more than a century for people to come around in their thinking about John Brown," Bates examines the thought and writings of a man of extraordinary genius whose sense of human dignity was profoundly altered, at age 16, by being secretly made the subject of an MKULTRA mind control experiment while a child prodigy undergrad at Harvard.

This article is long-- pack a lunch-- but it rewards the effort.

Bates:
QuoteWhen you see the disheveled arrest photos of Ted Kaczynski run beside the story of his suicide and the usual pablum about his bombing campaign without mention of MKULTRA, just remember, you are the cultural programming subject the Unabomber was warning about.





K-Dog

Quote from: K-Dog on Jul 25, 2023, 10:56 AM

The down and dirty about the unabomber.

The government puts your brain on a petri dish.  You might want REVENGE.

Who woulda thunk that?  Surprise Surprise.

QuoteI believe Ted was objectively correct in his analysis of our modern world, and many of his predictions have come true since he wrote his essay.

If you subscribe entirely to Ted's philosophy, then sure his Solutions seem like the only way forward.  But for most people myself very much included.  Sending bombs in the mail seems like a pretty bad solution to very real problems. 

Indeed it would seem to me like his 20 years of domestic terrorism had basically no impact on the world.

Resemblance to RE is completely coincidental.

RE

Quote from: K-Dog on Jul 25, 2023, 11:14 AMResemblance to RE is completely coincidental.

The problem with letter bombs is anyone worth sending one to has somebody else to open the mail.  Demolishing the mailrooms probably won't save humanity.  I am in general agreement with TK that technology is the main problem of our species, because it separated us so far from all other living things we have essentially no predators.  Modern medicine and the extension of the human lifespan was the last straw.  Runaway human population overshoot doomed the planet, though hopefully not irretrievably.

Only time will tell what shakes out after the population knockdown.  None of us will be around by then to see it though.

RE

K-Dog

QuoteThe problem with letter bombs is anyone worth sending one to has somebody else to open the mail

Good point!