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Started by K-Dog, Jun 30, 2023, 01:02 PM

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K-Dog

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Quote from: whd on Nov 23, 2023, 05:12 PMEco-socialism? Has the DD turned into a WEF outpost? You guys get that the eco-socialists are already in control of our institutions and pandemics are just one of the means of their depopulation plans?

Considering the WEF is 100% capitalist which has nothing to do with socialism I have to ask you to clarify what you mean.

Regarding socialism and this website much of it has to do with me.

In line with 'Save as many as you can.' as RE says, my position is that you can't expect people to comply with doing the right thing (whatever that is) unless there is a PAYBACK for them.

Guaranteed work and Universal Heath care are PAYBACKS which the upper class has convinced every right-wing nutter between the east and west coasts to think of as bad.  Are you one of them?  You put eco-socialism and the WEF in the same sentence so I am thinking you may be.

The best thing we could do is implement Carbon Dividends but that would mean 'they' the imaginary left wing hordes of SOCIALISTS would be taking over.

You can't say the eco-socialists are in control when you can't even name one.  I am calling you out on that.  Name an eco-socialist, or if you cannot name one, tell me what one is and I will let you know if you are right or not.

And the prevailing winds of Doom indicate NOBODY is in control.

whd

The WEF is stakeholder fascist, making common cause with the eco-socialists undermining all our institutions. Basically, anyone who thinks climate justice is race and gender justice, aka woke. That is the basic message of the WEF, which is Capitalist like the CCP is capitalist. Green is the new red brigade. CBDC will be the key, all those woke/trans ideologues admining cancellation of anyone questioning the Narrative, like that boy toy leading Canada during Covid. Which means everybody here, likely. .

K-Dog

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Quote from: whd on Nov 23, 2023, 07:39 PMBy everybody here I mean, CBDC will get everybody here cancelled.
What is the CBDC?

If you mean -- Central Bank Digital Currency (CBDC) do tell how changing how rich people define and keep money changes the plight of the poor?

There are many ways to be cancelled, worrying about digital currency being a primary cause is not one of them.  But you are free to disagree and explain why and how.

When I meet people who worry about digital currency the thought always goes through my mind to ask : "You do realize there are three letter government agencies that can already cancel your credit cards any time they want.  Don't you?", but the desire to ask is not strong.  Such people for the most part are talking to themselves and would not listen.  They do not know they already wear chains.

whd

A primary point of a CBDC is to prevent the unwashed masses from buying gas, guns or meat. It will also be tied to AI: "At 3:07pm you stated on ----- website that ------ official is a 'kidfucker'; 150 Fedbits have been deleted from your account"..."Your Fedbit account has been cancelled because you have said three times in the the past thirty days that Fedbits are a conspiracy to cancel dissidents."

Of course Intelligence can cancel your accounts, but that is so 20th century. Once it is all digital and AI, they can all claim it isn't happening.

Yeah, and, line up for your monthly mRNA boosters or lose your Fedbit account....

RE

WHD returns to the Diner packing WMDs for the WEF , mRNA & CBDCs.  WTF I am LMAO.  ;D  AFAIK I will BBL.

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K-Dog

I wonder why
Quote"You do realize there are three letter government agencies that can already cancel your credit cards any time they want.  Don't you?"
always gets ignored.  It mystifies me that the truly paranoid never consider that shit already happens.  It always is in a future and never right now to them.

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Quote from: K-Dog on Nov 23, 2023, 09:12 PMI wonder why
Quote"You do realize there are three letter government agencies that can already cancel your credit cards any time they want.  Don't you?"
always gets ignored.  It mystifies me that the truly paranoid never consider that shit already happens.  It always is in a future and never right now to them.

Which is why many people who are at-risk of being targeted for investigation by the FBI, DEA, ATF, IRS, NSA, CIA, INS, TSA or BHS keep a substantial amount of money in CASH in Safe Deposit Boxes or buried in one of the National Parks off the main trails and keep the lat/lon of the location in a file encrypted with GPG4USB on a MicroSD card in a waterproof capsule they store in their Prison Wallet.  Not only your Credit Cards can be stopped, but you bank accouunts and stock trading accounts all can be frozen in a matter of seconds leaving you only with the money you have on you if you need to skip town.

This of course is the reason for numbered Swiss Bank Accts, Cayman Islands Accts and why many held very high hopes for Crypto as a means for having stored money Da Goobermint can't touch if you run afoul of their approval of your activities.  Of course, folks whose activities include things like Drug Smuggling and Weapons Trafficking have a lot to worry about in this regard, so most people tend to believe if you are just a nice law abiding citizen you have nothing to worry about, but sadlly that is not necessarily true.  Mistaken Identity and Identity Theft can be a problem, and targeting for political purposes is most certainly possible also.  J. Edgar Hoover of the FBI was well known for making miserable the lives of anyone he disagreed with politically who had even limited notoriety.

Crypto has turned out to be not so great and Gold can be problematic due to the fact any transactions over I think $600 have to be reported to the IRS.  Offshore bank accounts can be hard to get the money from if you don't have a functioning bank acct here to transfer money to.  So, CASH remains King as the money safety valve in the world of plastic and digital currency that has evolved.

Cash itself can be a problem to work with except in small transactions of say <$10K, but once you wanna buy something bigger than that it can be difficult to pay cash.  If you walk into a Porsche dealership and wish to pay Cash for a 2023 Porsche 911 which retails around $300K, I'm pretty sure a call will be made to the local cops on the high probability you are a drug dealer. lol.  Same thing buying a house, I'm not sure walking into a closing with a briefcase with $500K in it to buy a McMansion if it is that easy to just hand over the briefcase and get the Title signed over by the seller without having bankers and lawyers all hovering around.

In any event, I have never had that much surplus money around to need to bury it or use a safe deposit box, but I have always recommended all Doomers keep a few grand in cash around for emergencies.  On occassions all the cash machines and store POS registers all suffer an outtage, having cash to buy your smokes is essential.

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K-Dog

I asked WHD to name an eco-socialist and he never did so I will.


In the video JBF makes an excellent point that one reason ecology is always a back-page item, is because socialists invented the concept.

JBF gets no argument from me on that.

whd

"I asked WHD to name an eco-socialist and he never did so I will."

I did in fact - every moron who utters the words "climate crisis" when what they really mean is, I want control over your life and to depopulate the planet.

The only thing worse than capitalists devouring the biosphere is socialists who talk about saving the planet when what they really are advocating for is genocide.

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Quote from: whd on Nov 28, 2023, 06:42 AMThe only thing worse than capitalists devouring the biosphere is socialists who talk about saving the planet when what they really are advocating for is genocide.

No, genocide has the-ide suffix, like fratricide, suicide and homicide.  It requires killing people.

Depopulation as it is currently operating is  lowering the birth rate below replacement level.  No killing required.

This is neither a capitalist or socialist phenomenon, it's a biological one and no goobermint of any flavor has found a means to stop it.

Everybody has their own pet theory on why this is happening across so many different countries all at the same time.  Personally, I think it's basically economics, kids just cost more than most people can afford to pay, or want to pay.  There really isn't much reward for it anymore either.  Used to be kids were parents insurance policy for when they got old.  Now, kids either disappear and move away, or they are a continuing drain well into their 20s and 30s.  So why go through all that sacrifice when you can live better without them?

https://www.vox.com/23971366/declining-birth-rate-fertility-babies-children

You can't even pay people to have more kids

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K-Dog

Quote from: whd on Nov 28, 2023, 06:42 AM"I asked WHD to name an eco-socialist and he never did so I will."

I did in fact - every moron who utters the words "climate crisis" when what they really mean is, I want control over your life and to depopulate the planet.

The only thing worse than capitalists devouring the biosphere is socialists who talk about saving the planet when what they really are advocating for is genocide.
Socialists of that ilk are not found here.  Our motto is save as many as you can.  No unnecessary ass-kicking.

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Quote from: 18hammers on Nov 28, 2023, 09:28 AMI am for a good depopulation, where is that button to press! Far to many stupid meat sack's around.

Well,  50% of the Meatsacks populating the planet are always below average intelligence, by definition.  That never changes no matter how many stupid people you kill off. lol.

Now, just for argument sake, say we pulled Thanos out of the MCU to snap his fingers while wearing the glove with all 6 Infinity Stones and instantly vaporize everybody with an IQ below 100.  With Earth's new population of 4B people, the median score is again 100, by definition.  Just it is a smarter 100 than the prior test done with 8B people.  It is not clear however if either 100 score is smart enough to eliminate stupidity.

From my own admittedly skewed perspective, I have found just about everyone I ever met with an IQ of 100 to be pretty stupid. Starting around 110, I find some people who are not stupid, they just don't test well.  At 120, about half of them are smart, then about half are stupid but test well.  Starting around 130, you rarely find a stupid person who can generate a score that high.  At 140, everybody is smart, unequivocally.  You just can't generate a score that high without being very smart.  So, if I was doing eugenics based depopulation selecting for smart people and making absolutely sure no stupid people sneak in and stay alive, I would probably put the cutoff score at 135.  That is exactly the 99th percentile score, coincidentally.  1% of the population makes the cut for eliminating human stupidity.  Fortunately for me, I make the cut with plenty of room to spare.  ;D  That would cut the population from 8B to 80M, and would be a really roomy earth where everybody could have a nice big chunk of land to live H-G, Permaculture, or techno Aquaponics powered by all renewable energy, your choice of Xanadu.

All that being said, stupidity isn't the proximal problem with the population of Homo Saps right now, it's demographics.  Way too many old folks, too few children and too few homo saps of breeding age.  So, if you were to bring in Thanos for a genocide based solely on age distribution, he should snap his fingers and vaporize everyone above the age of 40.  That knocks off 3B people and allows you to reset social security and medicare liabilities to 0.

Ideally for me, all men with an IQ below 135 and all women above age 40 should be vaporized by Thanos.  8)

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whd

"So, if I was doing eugenics based depopulation selecting for smart people and making absolutely sure no stupid people sneak in and stay alive, I would probably put the cutoff score at 135.  That is exactly the 99th percentile score, coincidentally.  1% of the population makes the cut for eliminating human stupidity."

To add, "smart" people were more likely to take the covid jabs than "stupid" people, so smart can also be quite stupid, and stupid can be smart, depending on how you measure it.

whd

"I am for a good depopulation, where is that button to press! Far to many stupid meat sack's around."

Let the socialists do it and they tend to focus on killing all the smart people who don't need control freaks.

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Quote from: whd on Nov 29, 2023, 07:23 PMTo add, "smart" people were more likely to take the covid jabs than "stupid" people, so smart can also be quite stupid, and stupid can be smart, depending on how you measure it.

I don't think smart people were any more likely to get vaxxed than stupid people.  Plenty of idiots got vaxxed.  I got it, but only because it was mandatory in the Gulag I was incarcerated at during the 1st wave when it was a panic response.  Actually my facility had a 50% mortality rate right before I got imprisoned there.  That's how a bed opened up.  The guy who was in my closet before me died of covid.  I doubt I would have contracted it with or without the vaxx.  I just don't get viral diseases.

In any event, covid was a tiny blip on the radar of death.  3 million people, maybe.  A nothingburger.

RE