[RE]

I grant that misinformation is a tricky thing, but where does it end?

It doesn't.

How can you tell a politician is lying?  His mouth is moving.

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[TDoS]

I grant that misinformation is a tricky thing, but where does it end?

It doesn't.

Okay. Then by what mechanism does one use to maneuver veau around it?

How can you tell a politician is lying?  His mouth is moving.
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Politicians are stupid by design. PhD Colin Campbell, esteemed globe trotting geologist, scientist and devotee to Hubbert, declared global peak oil in 1990...turns out...he thought it was true, but it was bullshit. So was it honest information when he made the claim and people who didn't know better bought it as real, or was it misinformation even at that moment because those who knew he was full of crap were the ones who were right?

Is honest information to the uninformed, was misinformation to those who knew more. Same information. Two claims. How does this example not endlessly repeat itself across the entire spectrum of information?

[K-Dog]

I grant that misinformation is a tricky thing, but where does it end?

It doesn't.

How can you tell a politician is lying?  His mouth is moving.

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I don't care to dignify him with a response, he never acknowledges a point.  Digital data can't be trusted.  Either he is an idiot and easily fooled, or a new trip to the cooler might be appropriate.

As to the amount of money it takes to create a class traitor?  YMMV

[RE]

Although some politicians are stupid, that's not the main problem.  The reason they lie is because they always have an agenda  and they are mainly motivated by greed and power.

All scientific research is subject to interpretation, and often the same data can be used to draw disparate conclusions.  In climate science for instance, you'll have some scientists who conclude we'll have runaway global cooking due to the greenhouse effect, then others say we'll have an ice age due to the albedo effect.  You'll also have research funded to demonstrate a predetermined conclusion, which particularly in science dependent on statistical analysis can be manipulated through careful choice of sampling methods and groups.

So what can you trust?  Well, if there is a political issue at stake dependent on the conclusions, it's probably not too trustworthy.  Say  something like the safety of a nuclear reactor design.  The folks who want to build it will hire scientists who say it's safe.  Anti nuke greenies will hire scientists who say it's not.  Both will present data to justify their conclusions.  Who do you believe?

Chaos is another problem.  Sometimes very small changes can result in wildly different outcomes.  Economics suffers from this problem because there are so many things going on at once that depend on each other.  Complexity leads to its own set of problems with trusting scientific conclusions.

Taken all together, it's a crapshoot.

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[K-Dog]

2 weeks

That is banned if anybody else wants to know.  TDos ate another egg, it is what he does. 

*  Confused ? You should be, the offending message has been moved.

[RE]

2 weeks was lenient.  That one violated the CoC at least half a dozen times.

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[K-Dog]

2 weeks was lenient.  That one violated the CoC at least half a dozen times.

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Yes it was lenient.  But the message has been moved into our new detention room topic.  The two weeks might turn into three if a new troll shows up to take his place.  Like what happened the last time TDoS decided to spend some time in the cooler.

[K-Dog]

Doubt he was born as a woman.  He has 13 kids.  Trannies are sterile.

I really don't give two fucks about Musk's sexual maladjustments.  But I'm hoping Musk soon feels the way another maladjusted who had the same level of empathy felt.  A man who let passion rule his actions.  Someone who had nowhere to go when karma's loan was called in.  I hope Elon soon feels like Richard did when Richard became the most hated man in America.  When Richard saw his own face on TV as a wanted man.  When TV identified him as the Night Stalker.

I seriously think comparing Musk to Richard Ramirez is too kind.

After he failed to steal a car, four men beat and held down serial killer Richard Ramirez until police arrived.

Who has killed more.  Ramirez or Musk.  Just closing the VA by itself gives Musk a bigger body count.  And if you do not think so, you are a dumbass who can't figure shit out.  I must be blunt.  Musk is Richard's doppelganger.  Every day there is more blood on the floor, and not enough people are giving a shit.

The same level of empathy.

[RE]

Well, Elon is on record as believing Amerikans have too much empathy.  So he is single handedly trying to make up for that.

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[K-Dog]

Joe would take a very long break if he were wise.  Join witness protection and enroll in a community college to fill the days or something.  Feed birds in a park.  Why eat the shit stew if you do not have to?  Lie low until nice people are in charge of things.  However long it takes.