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Trump's Manifest Destiny

Started by RE, Jan 07, 2025, 02:30 PM

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Not unlike Uncle Adolf, His Royal Trumpness has targeted weak countries surrounding the FSoA for takeover, by one means or another in the name of "National Security".

It should be obvious, but often people don't grasp the economic consequences of this type of power play.  As if world trade wasn't in enough of a precarious position, economic sanctions will be sprinkled around in all sorts of ways, and the energy trade most significantly.  The Panam canal is a major choke point and Canadian oil and gas gets exported all over the world.  The Europeans now depend on LNG from this side of the pond, and the tankers shipping it will be sitting ducks.  If I was Putin, the first thing I would do if the FSoA invaded Greenland would be to send out subs to sink LNG tankers.

Der Fuehrer Trump clearly sees himself as the Leader of the 4th Reich and wants an old style Empire, and his first targets are Greenland, Canada and Panama.  I suspect he will want to take ovr Mexico as well to complete the ownership package of North America.  He wants to rename the Gulf of Mexico to the Gulf of America.

Needless to say, there will be plenty of pushback on all of this stuff both internally in FSoA politics and globally at the UN.  A lot of powerful vested interests have skin in this game. so an assassination is a significant possibility.

No matter how it goes, His Trumpness has started a very ugly ball rolling.

https://www.reuters.com/world/trump-wont-rule-out-military-economic-action-he-seeks-control-panama-canal-2025-01-07/?utm_source=newsshowcase&utm_medium=gnews&utm_campaign=CDAqDQgAKgYICjC3oAwwsCYw_eTUAw&utm_content=rundown&gaa_at=la&gaa_n=AVINqTyX4vulXIyIvbqE5J5-XIXlYLjY9HRPx8JueylnW0ZwUu-x9zPHsCOFBzOOuOgFvcfcI4wVqvjCmq6LzJP8jlrI&gaa_ts=677dadd9&gaa_sig=FzjLiU86j4BSDj1YI6TYH1qc4snSOyo8ljkWRHizTsWwwevwBaLJ6S57HuAxHjrQvDk5Cot5RqDDLE2gv6ddVg%3D%3D

Trump won't rule out force to take Panama Canal, Greenland

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K-Dog

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Denmark Plans Arctic Vessels, Sled Patrols Amid Trump's Interest In Greenland

The government has also proposed upgrading the airport in Kangerlussuaq, a former US military base in western Greenland.

Copenhagen:

Denmark's government has proposed purchasing two new Arctic inspection vessels and increasing dog sled patrols to boost its military presence in Greenland, as US President-elect Donald Trump sets his sights on the island, local media reported.

The government has also proposed upgrading the airport in Kangerlussuaq, a former US military base in western Greenland, to accommodate F-35 fighter jets, broadcasters DR and TV2 said on Friday.

Denmark has already set aside $400 million to strengthen surveillance and intelligence in the Arctic and North Atlantic with long-range drones.

Trump this week reiterated his ambition to gain control over Greenland, a semi-autonomous Arctic territory of Denmark that the incoming US president views as crucial to American security.

Denmark, while responsible for Greenland's security and defence, has limited military capabilities on the vast island. At present, these include four ageing inspection vessels, a Challenger surveillance plane and 12 dog sled patrols, all tasked with monitoring an area four times the size of France.

The tradition of using sled dogs for patrolling Greenland dates back to World War II, with the patrol being a specialized unit of the Royal Danish Navy.

DEFENCE SPENDING TALKS

Following more than a decade of drastic cuts in defence spending, last year Denmark allocated 190 billion Danish crowns ($26 billion) for its military over a ten-year span, some of which will be for the Arctic.

Danish lawmakers began long-delayed talks on Friday on how to apportion those funds, which are being progressively allocated via political agreements. The discussions that commenced on Friday focused on what portion of the budget should be go to Greenland's defence requirements.

Earlier this week, Denmark's Foreign Minister Lars Lokke Rasmussen said he looked forward to informing Trump about Denmark's "massive" military build-up since his last term as president.

However, Defence Minister Troels Lund Poulsen acknowledged on Thursday that necessary military investments had been "neglected for many years."

Poulsen last month said more funds should be allocated towards Denmark's military presence in the Arctic, although he did not provide specifics.

"The US concerns are real, and there are some very concrete, huge problems in relation to Greenland," defence analyst and retired navy commander Jens Wenzel Kristoffersen told Reuters.

"The US needs to feel safe in this area, and if Denmark doesn't do something about this, then they will have to deal with it themselves."

The US military maintains a permanent presence at the Pituffik Space Base in Greenland's northwest. The strategic location is vital for the US military and its ballistic missile early-warning system, as the shortest route from Europe to North America runs via the island.

On Thursday, the US embassy in Copenhagen stated that there were no plans to increase the US military presence in Greenland.

RE

The best analysis I read of why El Trumpo is interested in Greenland is because when you look at it on a flat map in a Mercator projection it looks as big as Africa.



It's all about image and control.  Greenland's real value is unimportant. If it really was important for minerals, you can be sure the Greenlanders will sell extraction rihghts to any multinational that wants to mine there.  Fact is right now there's no profit in it.  Same reason the oil companies won't "drill baby, drill" despite having the full supprt of his Trumpness.

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K-Dog

#3
Greenland is part of Trumps plan to pretend America is great again.

A way to waste public money in a way that enriches the Trump tribe.  For Trump that is what it is all about.  Talking about Greenland puts a smoke screen over the other things that Trump is doing. 

And a great way to facilitate a Trump Jr. hunting expedition.  Kangerlussuaq is a good place for a hunting lodge.

Quote from: RE on Jan 16, 2025, 05:25 PMIt's all about image and control.
<-- Yes

RE

Looks like El Trumpo is SERIOUS about acquiring Greenland & the Danes are equally serious that it is Not for Sale.  We ALSO know about his collossal ego and as Master of the "Art of the Deal" in Real Estate won't take NO for an answer.  He's also gonna want to send the message he's the biggest toughest leader of the biggest toughest country, so don't DARE defy me!

All of which sets up a huge, totally unnecessary rift and conflict within NATO and probably some kind of action or resolution at the UN.

Will he try to land marines on the beach and take the Greenies by force?  Doubtful CONgress would give authorization for that, but ya never know.   I think he would need a declaration of War to be able to do it, but again maybe not.

Very entertaining.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/us/politics/2025/01/24/denmark-crisis-horrendous-phone-call-trump-buy-greenland/

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RE



How many hotels are there in Greenland?  They should refuse to book them any rooms.  Or they could refuse them entry at customs.  Although maybe having anti-Trump demonstrations everywhere they go would make for better newz footage.

It's pretty clear the only way Trump gets Greenland is by some kind of military maneuver and unilateral annexation.  The question is whether he is unhinged enough to do that?  Them if he did how would CONgress react, and would the Generals follow the order?

Denmark should station at least one military unit to protect the Greenland goobermint offices.  Force a firefight if an invasion happens.

https://www.politico.com/news/2025/03/24/greenland-trump-00246587

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K-Dog

#6
The social security system in Greenland includes:

    Public pensions for retirees and disabled individuals
    Unemployment benefits for those who qualify
    Healthcare coverage under a publicly funded system
    Family and child benefits, including parental leave and childcare support

Though benefits aren't as generous as in Denmark, they are still more secure than many U.S. states.

Greenland: Public pension system ensures a basic income for seniors, regardless of work history.  In the U.S. Social Security provides a pension based on work history.  Benefits depend on how much one has paid in.  There is universal access to pensions in Greenland, but In the U.S., people receive little or no Social Security if they haven't paid in.

Greenland: Parental leave policies exist, though not as generous as Denmark, child benefits are available.  In the U.S. there is no guaranteed paid parental leave, it depends on employer policy.  Any paid parental leave is better than the U.S.'s lack of guaranteed leave.

Greenland: Free education, including university options in Denmark.  In the U.S. only public school is free.  College is expensive, and student debt is common.  Greenland education comes without a massive debt burden.

But as they must have the COVID brain damage in Greenland like everywhere else, they must be standing in line to bend the knee to Trump.


The Greenlanders 4 Trump theme song.