Quote from: K-Dog on Feb 16, 2024, 03:30 PM

QuoteLike the FSoA, I can see China breaking up into regional fiefdoms.

Breaking along political lines in the FSOA is next to impossible.  All communications are controlled and this prevents the growth of any new movements.  What is happening here right now makes that case.  If something like a Trump takes over, that does NOT count as a revolution.  All that would be is a change of ownership.

You're mistaking how such a breakup would occur, it's not from an external movement, it's from failure of the basic systems holding the society together.  It's not individual states seceeding, it's a general breakdown all over and a descent into some level of anarchy.  AFTER this, groups of people come together for mutual support and protection.  Gangs form, townsform militias, and these groups form alliances and trade resources with each other and gradually a regional structure large enough to have enough resources to self support stabilizes.

Think of Europe after the collapse of the Roman Empire.  It broke up into lots of individual tribes, which over time formed fifedoms with chiefs and warlords, who fought and made alliances and eventually you came up with all these states with Kings like France and Germany and Poland etc.  They were basically self supportng regions, but each always competing with the other at the borders for  more territory.

The Empire collapse was of course followed by a large population drop before this reassembly took place.  That will happen this time also.

Note:  We said the same thing after the first paragraph.  I should have read further before responding. lol

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Quoteit's not from an external movement

All communications are controlled and this prevents the growth of any new movements says no external movements.

Quoteit's from failure of the basic systems holding the society together.  It's not individual states seceding, it's a general breakdown all over and a descent into some level of anarchy.

Some sort of breakup along administrative lines would fragment the country when one district does something the management of another district does not like.  This is failure of basic systems.

QuoteAFTER this, groups of people come together for mutual support and protection.

No, these are nothing like pioneers.  They have no skills to provide for their basic needs.  Everyone is beholden to the ruling authority for food.  Video games have not prepared anyone to grow food.