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Started by K-Dog, Feb 13, 2024, 02:13 PM

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K-Dog

Quote from: RE on Apr 20, 2024, 02:38 AM
Quote from: K-Dog on Apr 19, 2024, 09:16 PM* Accusing you of being a scooter salesman suggests that three days is not long enough.

I deleted that post because it was just plain stupid.....

That he was obsessed enough to travel to this town which is 40 miles west of nowhere in North or South  Carolina (can't remember which, I'm sure he can tell us)just to spend 5 minutes chatting banalities with me should give you some idea of how tenuous his grip is on reality.  That is stalker behavior, and I'm not even a rock star! lol.

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If the territory is BRITISH Antarctica, why woul thd the Ruskies be the ones to drill it?  One would think British Petroleum would have first dibs.

Given it's in Antarctica, the cost of drilling down there and building the infrastructure for storing the oil and pumping it onto supertankers would be astronomical.  There isn't even a port on the North Slope to do that. it's why they built the Alaska pipeline and ship out of Valdez.  The cost of getting that oil is probably an order of magnitude greater.  Not to say they won't do it though/

https://watcher.guru/news/brics-russia-makes-massive-oil-discovery

BRICS: Russia Makes Massive Oil Discovery

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TDoS

Quote from: RE on May 13, 2024, 07:55 PMBRICS: Russia Makes Massive Oil Discovery
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Oil discoveries come with two very important things.

1)  The name/date of the well (called the "discovery well", go figure) that penetrates the given formation and often times delivers samples of the oil itself.
2)  The wireline or LWD logs demonstrating the necessary geophysical characteristics of the formation to deliver.

This article mentions neither. If wishes were horses...

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Quote from: TDoS on May 13, 2024, 09:22 PM
Quote from: RE on May 13, 2024, 07:55 PMBRICS: Russia Makes Massive Oil Discovery
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Oil discoveries come with two very important things.

1)  The name/date of the well (called the "discovery well", go figure) that penetrates the given formation and often times delivers samples of the oil itself.
2)  The wireline or LWD logs demonstrating the necessary geophysical characteristics of the formation to deliver.

This article mentions neither. If wishes were horses...

OK, good information.

So, if these Ruskie drillers did in fact drill the "Discovery Well" and have oil samples and the "wireline", who does the oil belong to, them or the owner of the title to the property?  In this case title belongs to HRH, the King of England correct?

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Quote from: RE on May 14, 2024, 12:29 AMSo, if these Ruskie drillers did in fact drill the "Discovery Well" and have oil samples and the "wireline", who does the oil belong to, them or the owner of the title to the property?  In this case title belongs to HRH, the King of England correct?
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Darned if I know, international politics and machinations being what they are. But DAMN it will be fun to watch, not just among the GovCo's fighting for their cut but the protestors rowing out in their dingys to get in the way of ships carrying supplies, rigs, fuels and all sorts of other excellent pollution creating materials...unless of course they are using motorized boats in which case it is just the usual hypocritcal protest type stuff.

But entertainment value? Absolutely. The King of England sends in a naval vessel to blockage the equipment...Russia tries to send their own and it breaks down halfway to the equator....protestations are filed at the UN...and this all happens even BEFORE anyone figures out if there is actual oil there.

K-Dog

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Even if accidentally found through scientific studies, mineral resources cannot currently be commercially explored or exploited under the 1991 Protocol on Environmental Protection to the Antarctic Treaty.

A protocol to the 1959 treaty was signed in 1991. The agreement banned mineral and oil exploration for 50 years and included regulations for the protection of the Antarctic environment.  2041 would be the year the protocol runs out by the math.  With Britain running out of North Sea oil, the agreement will obviously be torn up and thrown away if these oil deposits have any commercial value.

If I were Putin I'd already be making plans to take out any oil infrastructure that was built in Antartica. Nord Stream* style.

People are incredibly stupid. 

QuoteThe current Russian activity is troubling,"
Klaus Dodds, Professor and Wanker of Geopolitics at the University of London said in a written statement.

How so?  If British drills were ready to get Antarctic oil could, would that be troubling?  And why not?

The great game goes on:

Rivalry between Britain and Russia in Central Asia in the late 19th century caused 'The Great Game' to be used used by Rudyard Kipling in his novel Kim (1901).

British attitudes were influenced by reports of official, semiofficial, and private adventurers enjoying the thrill of clandestine operations beyond the frontiers of India, reports that frequently embellished (or even invented) accounts of Russian machinations and the vacillating loyalties of local chieftains.

Talking shit about Russia in Britain is as common as London fog.  The idea that was then and this is now, with modern Brits being OK with Russia totally ignores human sociology.  Talking shit about others is trans-generational.  Shit-talk becomes part of cultural hegemony as time passes.  Hate directed against group outsiders morphs into inappropriate feelings of patriotism.  Social advancement can result. 

Brits feel like they still have an empire when they talk shit about Putin.  So don't expect them to stop their Great Game anytime soon.  Talking shit about others identifies group membership and engenders elite solidarity.  Group sanctioned hate is a very resilient social feature.  Such hate always gets a lot of votes in an election.

And since England is now in a sense the other California, American attitudes goose-step right along.

* A mile of Nord Stream pipeline carried 1839 cubic meters of gas.  Can we imagine this?  No we can't, so how much is that gas worth?  It turns out to be $650 to $975 at average American natural gas retail prices per mile.  Two pipelines 761 miles long were destroyed.  Taking the average, the gas leaked was worth about 1.2 million dollars.  If you are riding Biden, such a trifling environmental disaster is no big deal.

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My personal WAG is if they wanted to drill it, they probably would need to pay a leasing fee and/or royalties to HRH.   If there was enough money involved, the Brits might agree to it and the UN treaty would be ignored.  Without a monetary agreement, there would be a naval blocked under the UN flag.

Maybe if the price makes it to $200/bl.  Otherwise, just too fucking remote.  Wave heights and wind speeds down in the roaring 40s would make the whole shipping thing a fucking nightmare.  It's basically a 24/7 hurricane down there.  Great sailing though.  The Sydney-Hobart yacht race is a fun one.  Did it on  a boat owned by a friend of my dad in my teens.  1972 I think.


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