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Quote from: RE on May 27, 2024, 11:37 AMI think they like monitoring us so they can have a better understanding of collapse for themselves.

What, they are too stupid to read Jared Diamond's work for themselves? Missed dieoff.org when it came out of the gate before any Diner came along? Do we think they were suckered by Matt Savinars sheer genius, his stuff got quoted in Congress....anything from the Diner ever get that far?

All pikers and 2nd rate compared to the sheer genius on  the Diner.!

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Quote from: REWe're probably considered the Top Experts in the world in the field of Collapse Theory by the Illuminati.    I know I've written the equivalent of at least 5 dissertations on various sub-specialties, Economics, Anthropology, History, Psychology and Sociology.

Seriously? Are you referring to the YouTube videos posted over the years?

They also have access to all the material stored on A Small Orange.  That was all copied to the NSA and Google databases over the years.

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Quote from: RE on May 27, 2024, 03:46 PMWell, you would have to as the guys doing the D/L the WHY question, but since they clearly do it on a regular basis they obviously have their own reasons for doing it.  Since it's unlikely the are afraid of us, the alternative is they are learning from us. 

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Why is it that other doomer type sites don't ever say anything about this kind of activity going on? They have larger audiences, spew doomer topics far wider and more prolificly than anything diner or reddit or squirrel place has ever done, have credible authors and writers compared to just folks BSing on the topic, etc etc. Afraid of this place unlikely, and no, learning from what is presented here isn't a likely alternative explanation.

Quote from: RE on May 27, 2024, 03:50 PMAll pikers and 2nd rate compared to the sheer genius on  the Diner.!

You get quoted on the floor of Congress and we'll talk. Otherwise a lawyer who can't even work up to successful ambulance  chaser who made the career move to astrologer/palm reader and later part time substitute elementary school teacher has you beat.

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QuoteSeriously? Are you referring to the YouTube videos posted over the years?

They also have access to all the material stored on A Small Orange.  That was all copied to the NSA and Google databases over the years.
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All internet stuff is copied somewhere by someone...K-Dog doesn't appear to be indicating that this is just that run of the mill kind of thing. This place doesn't even kick out enough material to need more than a nano-second of downloading material on a fast connection.

Quote from: TDoS on May 27, 2024, 04:00 PMWhy is it that other doomer type sites don't ever say anything about this kind of activity going on?

Probably because the analysis isn'tt as creative and original. 

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True Genius is never recognized in your own lifetime. 

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Quote from: RE on May 27, 2024, 04:12 PM

Quote from: TDoS on May 27, 2024, 04:00 PMWhy is it that other doomer type sites don't ever say anything about this kind of activity going on?

Probably because the analysis isn'tt as creative and original. 
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Or they don't know it is happening. Or it isn't happening to them. Or it isn't the men in black doing it, but discerning readers wanting to warehouse it for posterity and the main doomer sites don't mind their work being memorialized by other doomer folks?

As far as creative and original....can you name an idea of yours that qualifies that someone else hasn't hypothesized first?

Quote from: RE on May 27, 2024, 04:16 PMTrue Genius is never recognized in your own lifetime. 

Tell it to Einstein and Oppenheimer. Marie Curie. Newton? Darwin? Tesla? Galileo?

Yeah, TRUE genius seems to be recognized in ones lifetime. As far as puddknockers and wanna-be's....well....I imagine your idea is what the puddknockers and wanna-bes are hoping....

Quote from: RE on May 27, 2024, 03:46 PMWell, you would have to as the guys doing the D/L the WHY question, but since they clearly do it on a regular basis they obviously have their own reasons for doing it.  Since it's unlikely the are afraid of us, the alternative is they are learning from us. 

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Quote from: RE on May 27, 2024, 03:46 PMWell, you would have to as the guys doing the D/L the WHY question, but since they clearly do it on a regular basis they obviously have their own reasons for doing it.  Since it's unlikely the are afraid of us, the alternative is they are learning from us. 

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QuoteThis place doesn't have anyone who knows anything of value.

TDOS saying that we are unknown and unremarkable.  That is his truth.  His truth denies reality because the obvious surveillance of this website screams otherwise.  This website does not deny reality.  Currently we have web address 2a03:2880:16ff:1::face:b00c looking at 33 different posts.  'They' are not reading posts to tell us we have done a good job.

Content did not get modified on this website in the past to put the fear of god in me all by itself.  There have been targeted threats through the years.  I have been gang-stalked.  Veiled threats have been made suggesting my family could be hurt.

Making a recording of a conversation you have with a family member using your phone as a bug, and then showing snippets of that conversation back to you later embedded in other correspondence is a very effective veiled threat which works on a lot of people.  Likely most people I am sure.  But the intent of those threats was so obvious to me that I could not take the threats seriously.  I doubt a family member would be 'taken out' before I am 'taken out'.  And once I am 'taken out', there is no reason to hurt my family. 

Logic told me it made no sense, but if I was stuck on myself I might think myself important enough to be treated in such a way.  I'm not a narcissist, so I did not take their psychological bait and go off the emotional deep end as 'they' intended for me to do.

I have been surveilled for forty years.  The unusual thing about that is this info was leaked to me by mistake?  One day I am asked about a communist bookstore that closed over twenty years ago by someone out of the blue who I already had reason to be suspicious of.  Someone who should not and could not possibly have known I visited the bookstore unless 'they' had a crystal ball that could see twenty years into the past.  When I found how long my ass has been watched I was angry. 

I might have an pamphlet somewhere I bought at the bookstore on my bookshelf stashed somewhere in a box.  The pamphlet is about sugar and the Cuban economy.

Web address 2a03:2880:16ff:1::face:b00c is looking at 33 different posts.  Perhaps 'they' are looking for changes that could be used for communication by bad actors who do not want to be identified using normal communication channels.  But I don't give a fuck about speculation.  What matters is I have been personally fucked with, and threats have been made. 

Hence my behavior will be appropriate to the situation.  There is nothing else for me to figure out.

Quote from: TDoS on May 27, 2024, 07:14 PMAs far as creative and original....can you name an idea of yours that qualifies that someone else hasn't hypothesized first?

Yes. 

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Quote from: RE on May 27, 2024, 04:16 PMTrue Genius is never recognized in your own lifetime. 

Tell it to Einstein and Oppenheimer. Marie Curie. Newton? Darwin? Tesla? Galileo?

Oppenheimer wasn't a genius.  He was a good manager of geniuses.  The others, geniuses, and some do get recognized in their lifetimes.  It's not a perfect correlation,

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Quote from: K-Dog on May 27, 2024, 11:26 PMTDOS saying that we are unknown and unremarkable.

Well, not sure I said it, but I did imply it.

Quote from: k-DogThat is his truth.

More like a thorough observation of reality, posting activity, active users, etc etc.

I don't know what "truth" might be, ask a religious person?

Quote from: K-Dog'They' are not reading posts to tell us we have done a good job.

Maybe they aren't reading posts but just archiving stuff on the internet? Good bad or otherwise. And define what you even mean by "good job"?

Quote from: K-DogI have been gang-stalked.  Veiled threats have been made suggesting my family could be hurt.

I have been gang stalked. Haniel and RE for example. What is a "veiled threat"? And if you took it seriously, and considering the power of the people you think are behind it, was it so scary that you modified your behavior? Or just kept happily doing the same thing...demonstrating that any claim of serious threat would seem to be suspect. 

Quote from: K-DogMaking a recording of a conversation you have with a family member using your phone as a bug, and then showing snippets of that conversation back to you later embedded in other correspondence is a very effective veiled threat which works on a lot of people.  Likely most people I am sure.  But the intent of those threats was so obvious to me that I could not take the threats seriously.  I doubt a family member would be 'taken out' before I am 'taken out'.  And once I am 'taken out', there is no reason to hurt my family. 

Well good for you then, not taking threats seriously. I did the same with what Haniel and RE and Surly were doing, I mean really, as you and I have both seemed to indicate, can you take threats seriously from people who themselves don't appear to be serious?

Quote from: K-DogHence my behavior will be appropriate to the situation.  There is nothing else for me to figure out.

Sounds like you aren't worried about it in the least then. You sure this isn't just some amateur hour computer geeks playing secret agent like Haniel and RE were doing to me?

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Quote from: TDoS on May 27, 2024, 07:14 PMAs far as creative and original....can you name an idea of yours that qualifies that someone else hasn't hypothesized first?

Yes. 

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Oh NOW I'm curious. Did you write one of your many dissertations on it, or is it written in invisible ink on a blank sheet of paper in your headstone?

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Quote from: TDoS on May 27, 2024, 07:24 PM

Quote from: RE on May 27, 2024, 04:16 PMTrue Genius is never recognized in your own lifetime. 

Tell it to Einstein and Oppenheimer. Marie Curie. Newton? Darwin? Tesla? Galileo?

Oppenheimer wasn't a genius.

Tell it to his non Manhattan project accomplishments.

What about J. Robert Oppenheimer as a scientist stands out after all these years? Mark Paris, a theoretical physicist at Los Alamos, takes a look at some of the high points in a column for Physics Today, tracing Oppenheimer's important contributions to the emergence of quantum theory. Oppenheimer achieved influential work in the spectral properties of molecules, offered an understanding of cosmic rays and neutron stars, and predicted what would come to be called "black holes." Much of that work came while founding the leading school of theoretical physics in America.

Let me guess..you fault him because he didn't go to the right high schule where the cool kids all went?

The answer to the title question is "No", but Saito does get a feature article in The Atlantic.  Going Mainstream!

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2024/05/kohei-saito-degrowth-communism/678481/

Is America Ready for 'Degrowth Communism'?

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