Run Bambi run.

Cops all over the place and damn, nobody could find the backpack before the cops. "If I had only been here five minutes earlier".

The New Yorker reporter is just appalled at how our society has decayed to the point that the execution of a "hard working family man" has been mostly applauded in social media commentary.  I am appalled that he is appalled.  This guy really thinks scumbags like Brian Adams are hard working?

Meanwhile, Reuters reports they have a suspect and the "net is closing in" around him.  They supposedly have recovered a backpack resembling the one the shooter had and they're searching for the weapon in a pond in Central Park.

So it looks like we'll get a trial, and whoever this guy is, he's gonna be an instant Folk Hero.  Then the reporter from the New Yorker will be further appalled when Grouupies throw themselves at him and apply for conjugal visits at Rikers Island.



Is it the real killer or are they framing somebody?  If they do have the right guy, will he confess or maintain his innocence?

More Distraction Theater to occupy the newz cycle along with Tranny dress codes and school lunches laced with puberty blocking hormones.

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/nyc-mayor-says-suspect-identified-unitedhealth-executives-murder-ny-post-reports-2024-12-07/

https://www.newyorker.com/news/the-lede/what-the-murder-of-the-unitedhealthcare-ceo-brian-thompson-means-to-america

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This is not distraction theater, this is the intermission.  I'll explain.

There has always been confusion in America about what 'class' college educated professionals and wannabe lookalikes belong to.  The INCORRECT and COMMMON view is they belong to a middle class which exists somewhere between rich and poor. 

Mass media talking heads on screens are such college educated professionals and wannabe lookalikes.  They are members of a 'middle class' which in fact consists of proletarian class traitors that are paid and treated sufficiently differently from bottom tier proletarians that their narcissistic asses imagine themselves in another class next to the rich.  All because they are paid better than average and wear better threads.  But being paid a bit more is the only difference.  They are still paid for their labor, but with Judas gold.  Gold that makes them betray their class.

They express the moral outrage of the rich.  They identify with the rich.  And they are all about Bambi getting caught.  Lifestyles of exploitation are threatened, Bambi must be caught. But scream as a talking head does, MEDICARE FOR ALL is also talked about.  Health care talk is not suppressed and ignored as the duopoly has done to it since they screwed over Bernie.

If a mainstream talking head were to start talking about the politics of all this they would be fired before their rant finished.  But people use other sources, independent sources who are more attached to reality than the propaganda machine.  Enough people are following independent sources to threaten the hegemonic narrative.

Talking heads express upper class neo-liberal capitalist hate over the health care bean feed being threatened.  There is no empathy among them.  They have only crocodile tears.

If I go to the grocery store how many baby killing vets are in the store with me?  Sent to kill sand niggers for the state, (otherwise known as people with families), our trigger pullers are now solid citizens.  All is good.  Parking places are reserved for our baby-killers.  We thank them for their service.

That being the case, what is wrong with thanking Bambi for his service?  What is the difference?




You can get this at Walmart.







It is an intermission because mass media has no idea how much they are quietly pissing people off with their moral outrage, ignorance, and lack of empathy.

People are homeless and we have two proxy wars with a new one kicking off.  Thousands are dying and we should give two fucks about Brian Thompson why?

why?
why?
why?


UnitedHealth Group CEO, Andrew Witty, decided now is a good time to scold Americans on healthcare, and talk about just how much good UnitedHealthcare has done for healthcare and their customers.

run

Hang on tight.

An insiders perspective.

"The Fugitive" is still on the run, and based on this recounting, the "evidence" against the Person of Interest amounts to a lot of circumstantial nothing.  They don't have the weapon, they have a backpack which might be his, samples of DNA which might be his and photos from surveillance cameras which might be him.  They just as easily might not be the guy who pulled the trigger, just somebody dressed like him who arrived on a bus from Atlanta.  They do not have an eyewitness who could put him at the scene of the crime and the DNA evidence they say they have could be from anywhere.  Unless it was found on a bullet in The CEOs corpse or a shell casing found at the scene, the DNA doesn't tie him to the murder.  My bet is the DNA comes from the backpack they found.

While they apparently have good enough quality images of him without his face covered to identify him, they haven't actually got a name of a person who fits the description.  Utilizing facial recognition software, they could easily run pictures of everyone in the country with a drivers license to find a close match as a starter.  Obviously they don't have his DNA or his fingerprint from any prior run in with the law, or they would have a name that way.  So this person of interest whoever it is has a pretty clean criminal record.

While the article says the longer he evades capture the more likely he is to make a mistake and there is no way to evade capture given the huge resources being deployed to find him, the exact opposite is true.  The longer it goes, the more likely leads will go cold and the more difficult it becomes to put him at the scene of the crime.  This is true of all missing persons cases.  Capture rates drop off dramatically after the first 24 hours, are far worse than that after 72 hours and after a week they are teeny weeny.

How long will the NYPD and FBI keep hundreds of detectives actively working on this case before they drop it in the Cold Case file and just assign a team of maybe 5 agents to keep a full scale manhunt going?  A couple of months maybe?  If they haven't arrested somebody by New Years, the only way this guy will get caught is if he gets drunk and starts bragging about it on Social Media.

The thing is of course that the guy who did it probably would like to take credit for it, he would be instantly a famous folk hero.  Subconsciously he might do something that gives away who he is.  Or maybe he writes an anonymous Manifesto and mails it to the NYT and it ends up giving away his identity somehow.

Meanwhile however, at least so far the perp executed pretty close to a perfect crime without leaving much of an evidence trail.  Despite their claims of the inexorability of his eventual capture, it's not looking too good for the FBI Profilers and the NYPD CSI unit. lol.

https://www.cnn.com/2024/12/09/us/unitedhealthcare-ceo-brian-thompson-shooter-monday/index.html

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A good analysis, I agree.  Delay deny defend depose.

This combo, a dropped word and and added word suggests Bambi acted alone following a personal vendetta.  But they have him on camera using a phone and that could spill the beans.  The camera has a timestamp.  The possible calls will only be a few thousand.  Most records will be quickly eliminated.  Phones have serial numbers that identify and hidden features like computers have.  Bambi and company will have to know all about burner phones to evade detection.  I do not think I know enough to pull such a thing off.

Brian Thompson had been getting phone threats.  Forensic experts are going over phone records, and there is much we don't know.

If an anarchist group did it somebody may spill the beans.  Your analysis is solid, but there are many possibilities.

Quote from: K-Dog on Dec 09, 2024, 06:26 AMA good analysis, I agree.  Delay deny defend depose.

This combo, a dropped word and and added word suggests Bambi acted alone following a personal vendetta.  But they have him on camera using a phone and that could spill the beans.  The camera has a timestamp.  The possible calls will only be a few thousand.  Most records will be quickly eliminated.  Phones have serial numbers that identify and hidden features like computers have.  Bambi and company will have to know all about burner phones to evade detection.  I do not think I know enough to pull such a thing off.

Brian Thompson had been getting phone threats.  Forensic experts are going over phone records, and there is much we don't know.

If an anarchist group did it somebody may spill the beans.  Your analysis is solid, but there are many possibilities.

Given the fact that everything else was so well planned, I would be surprised if he didn't use a burner phone.  The fact that the person they have on video used a phone doesn't mean that person was the killer, even if they do track down the phone call.

If it was him on the phone, that does suggest that he was not working alone.  Who else wold you talk to on the phone during the commission of a crime except somebody else involved?  You're not gonna call somebody for a friendly chit chat.  Not ordering Pizza. lol.

If they do track down somebody and this is all they have as evidence when they go to trial, there's no way it gets a conviction.  Reasonable doubt is still a mile wide.  Whoever it is will also have to match this photo perfectly.  If he gains or loses weight and changes his hair color that can be hard to prove.

On the theory it was a conspiracy and one of the threats he received was followed though on, definitely the possibility exists someone will talk.  Again though in that situation it's still a long ways between them nabbing somebody and a conviction.  Whoever it is has had plenty of time to work up an alibi.  If he maintains his innocence and deny, deny, deny, what do they convict on?  No gun.  No witness.

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A suspect has been apprehended!

Luigi Mangione, 26.  Caught eating at McDonalds in Altoona, PA.

Can't wait to hear the evidence.

This report is dated Dec 4th, updated today.

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/12/06/nyregion/unitedhealthcare-brian-thompson-shooting.html?utm_source=newsshowcase&utm_medium=gnews&utm_campaign=CDAQg5nh0onWhJFSGMfx5fCvveXElgEqDwgAKgcICjCO64oDMJavPA&utm_content=rundown&gaa_at=g&gaa_n=AVINqTzQB6Kbl4COY_jqHXKkntNePm4yvryKEh8HLllu-xgjePyf4VzMsfCDaRLr3Fk3_gtBmzWXFd06Y9xob1Ctrpghn_fXog%3D%3D&gaa_ts=6757657c&gaa_sig=Dnp9OyMdWrr2juEaAg1ZIGd7Jucg5X8eAu8hxgWSwxXBgD9CZCFHzk0BMt7F2JTN-1Anq-xDTZv2_PEkujoWWg%3D%3D

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Remember to take great care not to get caught doing the crime and then walk into a Mickey D's less than a week later with a manifesto and a gun that could have been dumped in a hundred rivers between then and now.

I already posted the end of Fahrenheit 451.

The fix is in.

He did not dump the I.D., the gun, or the mask.  Having the mask means nothing.  I sell the same kind at work.  I doubt the planted I.D. means much more.  Are we really supposed to believe this guy did not 'burn' the fake I.D. after he used it in the hostel.  Absolutely.  Hold your nose and swallow it.

Everything you or I would NOT do to avoid getting caught we are supposed to believe this guy did.

Leave Monopoly money in a backpack, but make sure you keep the murder weapon for six days after all the gangster movie made in the last fifty years taught every American with eyes and ears to get rid of a murder weapon if you kill someone. 

It does not add up.  Going underground in some way for a long time had to be part of the plan.  That does not include a visit to Mickey D's.

Several movies involve characters disposing of a gun or guns to avoid detection. Here are a few examples:

    "Double Indemnity" (1944)
    "The Departed"
    "No Country for Old Men" (2007)
    "L.A. Confidential" (1997)
    "Mystic River" (2003)

How this woman found out so much about Luigi in ONE hour defies belief.


Given that she was chomping at the bit to do this video, how she knows all about this guy is AMAZING.

12 Minutes long and produced and uploaded in an hour.  I wish I had that talent.

Quote from: K-Dog on Dec 09, 2024, 01:23 PMEverything you or I would NOT do to avoid getting caught we are supposed to believe this guy did.

Nobody could buy this story with a straight face.  However, I am not sure it's the Gestapo doing the set-up.  I think it may be the killer(s) and they are the ones that called the cops with the tip.

Why else would he be sitting in a Mickey Ds with the gun and the manifesto except that he was waiting for the cops?  He had to want to be arrested this way.

If what he was doing was trying to get publicity about malfeasance in the medical insurance biz, he succeeded in spades, and a trial is exactly what he wants.  It's his stage to talk about all of it.  He gets the Manifesto read into the record.  It's brilliant.

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I suggest an insanity defense.


Because this guy chose to rot in a cell, forgotten.  He thew the celebrity he had away.  The longer it was unsolved the more thought and talk was engendered.  Now all that happens is the boot comes down.

The Mickey D employee who turned him in.  I hope he comes down with a medical condition that is denied.  I hope he gets prescribed prescriptions meds that cost hundreds of dollars a pill in copays.  I hope all the plagues of Egypt inhabit his rectum.


Give the rat the national Dunning–Kruger award. 

There Manifesto should have just been posted online.  It could have been done here.


Supporters of Mangione have allegedly set up GoFundMe accounts to raise money for Mangione's legal fees, although the site has removed any such pages.

Reddit also appears to be tamping down on support for the alleged assassin. The site banned an r/LuigiMangione community hours after it was created — but not before the page racked up hundreds of subscribers.

Netizens meanwhile have attacked the tipster who phoned police as a "snitch" and a "rat" with some users publicly threatening the unnamed worker.

Boycott until the dude is fired.



The McDonalds where Mangione was arrested.

Rewards total at least 60K.  The rat won't be asking "Will you be using our APP" at Mickey D's for a while.


29 bucks an hour for a year

you can always say somebody would have done it why not me

and the worm ate the worm

Many description of Brian Thompson as a family man with two sons.

The commander at Auschwitz had him beat by two.  Rudolf Hoess was twice the family man Thompson was.



Taking care of your own does not mean you care for others.  That is a sad fact of life.

I don't think he has to worry about the cost of his legal defense, even if the crowd funding sites are taken down.  I'm sure lawyers are lined up around the block offering to defend him pro bono.  The book rights alone will be worth millions, and the publicity the lawyer gets for defending him is priceless.

Was it a mistake to let himself be caught after a week?  Maybe, but he probably didn't like living on the run, and as I said his objective was to expose the medical health insurance industry corruption, which he did successfully.

Far as a defense goes, it assumes he is found guilty, but that is far from a slam dunk unless he confesses.  If the ballistics match on the gun he's probably sunk, but he could claim it was planted and that the manifesto is a forgery.  All of which might in fact be true.  As long as he can establish reasonable doubt, a sympathetic jury might vote to acquit.  This isn't likely of course, but also if convicted, what does he get?  20 years of 3 hots and a cot is not the worst bargain for the fame and to martyr yourself on moral grounds.  I doubt he gets the chair, and he'll be considered a hero by the other prisoners.  I'm sure he'll be protected.

The trial meanwhile will be good distraction theater for a while, and might get some changes made in the way a few claims adjusters pay claims.  Maybe we'll even get a copy cat killer and Open Season will be declared on CEOs. 

Happy Hunting!

RE