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Started by RE, Dec 20, 2024, 07:38 PM

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comrade simba

Illuminati, really? They're the ones stuffing suitcases fulla cash into campaign war chests for congressional votes?
So I might as well get it over with and touch the third rail - where do you stand on The Jewish Question?

RE

Quote from: comrade simba on Jan 21, 2025, 09:58 PMIlluminati, really? They're the ones stuffing suitcases fulla cash into campaign war chests for congressional votes?

Who do you think funds the PACs?  The money in those suitcases gotta come from somewhere, and it's not from GoFuundMe contributions.

QuoteSo I might as well get it over with and touch the third rail

Why?  Suiicide may be painless, but it doesn't improve the situation for the people you leave behind, nor does death improve your situation.
 
Quote- where do you stand on The Jewish Question?

What is the Jewish Question?  Was Jesus the Messiah?  Does wearing a Yarmulke protect your bald spot from sunburn?  Are they cheapskates?  Are Jewish girls better fucks?

RE

RE

The question of whether Muskrat's Sig Heil Salute was intentional or not is irrelevant.  It LOOKS sufficiently like this well known symbol of Nazi Solidarity that it can reasonably be construed that way.  When you couple this with Elon's equally well known political and social beliefs, it will be interpreted by bona fide Nazis to be an expression of his solidarity with them.

Would Elon characterize himself as a Nazi?  Of course not.  The problem is that in every way that counts, Elon's politics are synchronous with Nazi politics.  He believes in White racial superiority, he believes only property holders should have the right to vote, and he's part of the Fascist fusing of corporate power and goobermint.  So, looks like a duck, walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, he's a duck whether he admits to it or not.

The salute?  It was spontaneous and impromptu, so he wasn't consciously appealing to the Nazis in the audience.  Unconsciously though, Elon has seen all the same movies and newsreels we have seen, and his mind's eye know how Il Duce or Der Fuehrer looked when they capped off the end of a speech.  He's unconsciously modeling his behavior to look just like that.  To be clear, just like Hitler and Mussolini, Musk is a narcissistic megalomaniac who aspires to world domination and is convinced of his own superiority to the common man.  He believes his own race of White people is genetically superior and  should reproduce.  He's not JUST a Nazi, he's Der Fuehrer which translates to The Leader

Because of all that, his salute comes off as Nazi whether he intended it to or not.

https://apnews.com/article/musk-gesture-salute-antisemitism-0070dae53c7a73397b104ae645877535

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K-Dog

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It was not a clear signal because Elon knows how bad that would be.  It was a spontaneous expletive which likely did have passing thoughts concerning the failed Austrian Painter who never had a real job.  Motherfucker Musk wanted to see what he could get by with.  Push it to the limit without going over the edge like a high school class clown.  Me at 14 years old.  Trump and Musk both like to push it.  They scratch a common itch.


The failed painter had to be on his mind :

Elon Musk doubles down on endorsement of far-right German party in conversation on X

Elon Musk urged Germans to vote for the far-right Alternative for Germany (AfD) in an upcoming election.


Elon Musk urged Germans to vote for the far-right Alternative for Germany (AfD) in an upcoming election in a conversation with its leader on his social media platform X that highlighted the U.S. billionaire's growing ambition to sway European politics.

In a wide-ranging, sometimes stilted conversation that touched on immigration, German bureaucracy, energy policy, space colonization, God and Adolf Hitler, Musk and AfD chancellor candidate Alice Weidel agreed that the AfD was the answer to Germany's malaise.

"People really need to get behind AfD, otherwise things are going to get very, very much worse in Germany," Musk said. "I think Alice Weidel is a very reasonable person. Nothing outrageous is being proposed."

Musk was doubling down on his endorsement last month of the anti-immigration, anti-Islamic party labeled as right-wing-extremist by German security services, which has caused consternation in Berlin and accusations of undue influence.

The AfD has almost no chance of forming a government despite polling in second place as other parties refuse to work with it. Still, critics worry that Musk's support for the AfD could further bolster its popularity, eroding support for mainstream parties and making it harder for them to form a coherent coalition.

Musk's endorsement of the AfD and increasingly vocal support for far-right and anti-establishment parties across Europe comes after he last year used X and his vast wealth to help Republican candidate Donald Trump win the Nov. 5 U.S. presidential election.

Speaking in fluent English, Weidel expressed gratitude for Musk's support, saying that the opportunity to speak with Musk was the first time in 10 years that she had been allowed a platform to say her piece without interruption from a media world that, she said, was biased against her.

While the two touched on policy, agreeing that Germany's decision to exit nuclear power was "crazy" and that immigration was out of control, they were more animated when discussing abstract matters.

'Hitler was a communist'            <---------  NOT, in no fucking way is that true.

Asked by Musk to dispel any concerns that her party might be similar to Hitler's Nazis, Weidel said the genocidal dictator "was a communist" whereas hers was a "conservative libertarian" party.

"The biggest success (of other parties) after that terrible era in our history was to label Adolf Hitler as right and conservative. He was exactly the opposite. He wasn't a conservative, he wasn't a libertarian. He was a communist socialist guy," she said.

Almost all historians agree that Hitler, an eliminationist nationalist, was of the far-right.

Musk has defended his right to weigh in on German politics because of his "significant investments," namely Tesla's TSLA.O first European plant, and has praised the AfD's approach to regulation, taxes and market deregulation.

Musk recalled the bureaucratic hurdles that confronted him in opening the German Tesla plant.

"I think it was 25,000 pages was our permit. And it had to be all printed on paper," Musk said. "And then there has to be many, many copies made. So it literally was a truck of paper."

Last August, Musk held a similar talk with Trump, who has since tasked the entrepreneur with leading a drive to make U.S. government more efficient.

Weidel led the second half of the conversation, inviting Musk to explain his vision for peace in Ukraine, the colonisation of Mars and the concept of God. On the latter two points, Musk was forthcoming, but he declined to be drawn on Ukraine, saying a settlement was a matter for Trump.

On energy, Musk backed Germany's renewable ambitions but agreed with Weidel that turning off the nuclear power plants was a bad idea.

"When I saw that Germany was turning off the power plants after being cut off from gas supplies from Russia, I thought ... this is one of the craziest things I've ever seen," he said.

Leaders across Europe have expressed alarm over Musk's political activities in recent days, with some urging the EU to use its laws more robustly to guard the continent's democracies from outside influence.

The European Commission has said it will look at the discussion as part of its ongoing probe into X and possible violations of its Digital Services Act for potentially giving preferential treatment to "certain types of content."

(Reporting by Sarah Marsh, Thomas Escritt and Matthias Williams in Berlin; Additional reporting by Andreas Rinke and Friederike Heine in Berlin and Philip Blenkinsop in Brussels; Editing Gareth Jones and Matthew Lewis)

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Knarf

2025 : In the year 2025. man had gone insane.... How is the collapse going with a new "savior" as the new emperor? Can he glue it back together? I hear he can do 6th grade level jigsaw puzzles. :) KD, I keep waiting for another meet up with ER group. Have U heard anything?

I have seen the results of the new peace deal. Welcome home signs everywhere. Geez. It looks surreal with hundreds of people walking through a destroyed city. What home? They didn't make a dent in Hamas. This has been a land grab, and America helped, a lot. The billions the empire has spent, while it's nation crumbles is a sign of immanent collapse, unless the orange haired wizard brokers the deal of this decade. :)

TDoS

Quote from: comrade simba on Jan 21, 2025, 05:32 PMLucky you. I drew The Congo straw... so I just quit.
Last week I got initiated into the IOOF! Secret handshake and everything!

So secret I don't even know what the heck the IOOF is!

TDoS

Quote from: RE on Jan 21, 2025, 06:08 PMDoes the dripping sarcasm in the last 2 posts indicate both of you feel that identifying Musk as a Nazi is nonsense equivalent to Illuminati conspiracy theories?  You feel that Billionaires flashing the Nazi salute is one of those things that "doesn't matter" and you "don't care" about?

RE

I think Elon giving the Nazi salute is perfectly normal in the America we now find ourselves in. And obviously the Illuminati are not a conspiracy theory as some of us here have professed to being recruited right out of high school by them based on familial relations. With me it was more a suspicious sideways glance, a few whispered questions, and then dismissed out of hand for not immediately displaying the level of sychophancy they required.



TDoS

Quote from: comrade simba on Jan 21, 2025, 09:06 PMJust having a laugh, really.
Better tune your sense of humor properly around here. Some humor is allowed, some is not.

Quote from: comrade simbaMe and TDos have known each other for decades on the doom boards so there may be a  bit of private reference chuckling that isn't associated or aimed at anyone on this board.  I'll try to keep my comments on topic though.
This doom board ain't those ones. Doom was once free wheeling and cool, and then it turns out we all didn't know dick about oil, so it turned into collapses and politics and now it is just creeping fascism and a high cost of living. And places once buried in acolytes like peakoil.com have 3 regular posters, moderators are all gone, and the only people talking about peak oil are the idiots that didn't learn anything about it all the times it happened during the lifetime of the board.

Quote from: comrade simbaIs seig heil german for thank you? Open hand on heart, not a fist. Musk certainly ain't Nation, anyway. Maybe just sloppy? I'll give him a couple of points for not being at Davos where the power elite are gathered this week. And points for the both of them for the sheer entertainment value of the theater of the absurd.

Gotta put "Was that a nazi salute?" into I don't know.

Close enough for non-connoisseurs of the technique. Struck me as one pretty easily, but I've never been much of a Nazi-fanboi or Proud Boy or whatever is Nazi nowadays rather than just Republican or Democrat.

TDoS

Quote from: RE on Jan 21, 2025, 10:16 PM
Quote from: comrade simba on Jan 21, 2025, 09:58 PMIlluminati, really? They're the ones stuffing suitcases fulla cash into campaign war chests for congressional votes?

Who do you think funds the PACs? 
Rich people. No requirement they be mysterious pseudo conspiracy entangled .....people (aliens?).

Quote from: REThe money in those suitcases gotta come from somewhere, and it's not from GoFuundMe contributions.
Something wrong with rich people, drug dealers, oligarchs, bankers, folks who inherited rich, the Elks and Shriners, and all the usual suspects?

Quote
Quote- where do you stand on The Jewish Question?

What is the Jewish Question?  Was Jesus the Messiah?  Does wearing a Yarmulke protect your bald spot from sunburn?  Are they cheapskates?  Are Jewish girls better fucks?

RE
It figures your mind goes to Jewish girls and fucking, I imagine being trapped along with dozens of other shuffling geriatrics in a warehouse doesn't have much opportunity for boozing and getting high in a bar getting wasted while shining on some Inuit girl about stories of....how height really doesn't correlate with....you know....other parts.  ;D


K-Dog

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Quote from: TDoS on Today at 06:53 AMIt figures your mind goes to Jewish girls and fucking,

Quote from: TDoS on Today at 06:41 AMThis doom board ain't those ones. Doom was once free wheeling and cool, and then it turns out we all didn't know dick about oil, so it turned into collapses and politics and now it is just creeping fascism and a high cost of living. And places once buried in acolytes like peakoil.com have 3 regular posters, moderators are all gone, and the only people talking about peak oil are the idiots that didn't learn anything about it all the times it happened during the lifetime of the board.





Six days in the cooler.  (3 days x 2) You now that insulting other Diners is against the rules.  You have no excuse.

K-Dog

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Quote from: Knarf on Today at 04:38 AM2025 : In the year 2025. man had gone insane.... How is the collapse going with a new "savior" as the new emperor? Can he glue it back together? I hear he can do 6th grade level jigsaw puzzles. :) KD, I keep waiting for another meet up with ER group. Have U heard anything?

I have seen the results of the new peace deal. Welcome home signs everywhere. Geez. It looks surreal with hundreds of people walking through a destroyed city. What home? They didn't make a dent in Hamas. This has been a land grab, and America helped, a lot. The billions the empire has spent, while it's nation crumbles is a sign of immanent collapse, unless the orange haired wizard brokers the deal of this decade. :)

Nothing from Roger recently, but I have been too busy to check.  I am busy with my local socialist group and I have not been able to join the online group on the weekend because of work.  There is going to be hell breaking loose soon, and the best way to deal with the situation is being planned out.

The Democrats are too stupid to figure out that Boss Girl's full endorsement of the policies of genocide Joe cost them the election.  There is opportunity for a new way.  Nanci Pelosi and Co.  would have to venture to Peru and do ayahuasca for the Democrats to figure out how they screwed up.  Not going to happen.

RE

Quote from: K-Dog on Today at 09:31 AMSix days in the cooler.  (3 days x 2) You now that insulting other Diners is against the rules.  You have no excuse.

I was gonna let that one slide.  You were light on that last one though, so this makes up for it.  I will tack on some extra time for the remarks about Inuit girls.  Bonus 7th day.

RE

RE

Quote from: K-Dog on Today at 09:46 AMThe Democrats are too stupid to figure out that Boss Girl's full endorsement of the policies of genocide Joe cost them the election.   There is opportunity for a new way.

Personally, I think it was their policy on Trannies that cost them the election.

RE

K-Dog

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Quote from: RE on Today at 09:49 AM
Quote from: K-Dog on Today at 09:31 AMSix days in the cooler.  (3 days x 2) You now that insulting other Diners is against the rules.  You have no excuse.

I was gonna let that one slide.  You were light on that last one though, so this makes up for it.  I will tack on some extra time for the remarks about Inuit girls.  Bonus 7th day.

RE

Good, a full week is better.  It gives us an extra day too.

RE

Quote from: TDoS on Today at 06:32 AMRich people. No requirement they be mysterious pseudo conspiracy entangled .....people (aliens?).

All rich people aren't Illuminati, but all Illuminati are rich.    The unconnected rich don't fund PACs.  Maybe they make a donation to the Red Cross, but they don't fund lobbyists.

I didn't recall you having been recruited by the lizards.  Not surprised though given your line of work.

QuoteI think Elon giving the Nazi salute is perfectly normal in the America we now find ourselves in. And obviously the Illuminati are not a conspiracy theory as some of us here have professed to being recruited right out of high school by them based on familial relations. With me it was more a suspicious sideways glance, a few whispered questions, and then dismissed out of hand for not immediately displaying the level of sychophancy they required.

Even without the syncophancy,you served their interest well.

RE