Thirty pieces of silver or a DOGE look the other way cuz we are buying your dumb ass off.  Same difference.

Unfuckingbelievable, send every American the value of three average social security checks because thieves have found stolen money and want to give you a cut.

       I always post less when I get busy with the Diner software.  But this new season of Trump is a spectacle that leaves me speechless and paralyzes my fingers.

The biggest government tit sucker to ever exist looks at where all the government money goes.

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Outstanding Execution

Tesla at $700 a Share? It's Possible With 'Outstanding Execution.'


Musk believes Tesla's profit can rise 1,000% in the coming five years, adding


"It will require outstanding execution."


I totally agree.

The French Department Of Government Efficiency met Madame Guillotine for shenanigans not unlike those going on in America's current political theater today.  A circus of demolition tours America.  It features a ringmaster selected by the divine right of Kings, though a similar situation happened in ancient Rome after Julianus ascended the throne upon buying it from the Praetorian Guard.  Julianus immediately reversed monetary reforms and devalued Roman currency.  If Julianus were alive today, Julianus would have accomplished his theft by establishing a Crypto Reserve and issuing a mime-coin. 

Today with a silicon chip replacing his heart, Musk a heartless silicon-souled Jacobin leads his troupe of digital sans-culottes, to smash the state workings that made his fortune.  To steal state silverware to fund Mars colonies, a new Committee For Public Safety now terrorizes America.  * Social Stupidity  lets it all happen.

Mars colonies --- far too many people think this is a noble cause.

* Upon closer observation, it becomes apparent that every strong upsurge of power in the public sphere, be it of a political or of a religious nature, infects a large part of humankind with stupidity.

A stupid person is a person who causes losses to another person, or to a group of persons, while deriving no gain for himself, and possibly incurring losses.

America has the stupids.

Exploding rockets and swastikas painted on Teslas is at least putting few cracks in the Musk Mythology.  Not like he'll ever be homeless and living in a tent under an overpass in Silicon Valley,  but it's sure fun watching the investors run for the hills.    Hopefully Tesla will go the way of the Delorean and Elon will file Chapter 11 by the time Trump's term is finished.



A price down around 100 would be a good start.

Tesla Collapse Of The Ages: Growing Credibility Issues Can No Longer Be Ignored

https://seekingalpha.com/article/4765310-tesla-collapse-of-the-ages-growing-credibility-issues-can-no-longer-be-ignored

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In your link:

QuoteWhat Musk has accomplished thus far is indeed incredibly impressive.

I'll disagree.  Capitalism destroys competition via overproduction, and when the rate of profit drops from of this overproduction enough, a thing happens called a RECESSION.  The wheels of industry are seized up, and productive capacity erodes.  Then when productive capacity is degraded enough by the prolonged suffering, profitability becomes restored and a boom cycle results.

A shithead like Musk who receives government welfare to build his industries and who then faces no competition from competitors is not a genius.  In Musk's situation an idiot could succeed.  And did.

Musk is a parasite.


The Powell Memo has been hard at work.  The wheels of industry are very good at protecting idiots.

* My little town, how happy we were to put Mom and Pop out of Bizness paying no sales tax when we bought our books from Bozos.  Remember that, we were happy selling our souls for years.  Mom and Pop always had to pay shipping.  Bozos did not even have to pay benefits or a living wage.  And everyone was fine with it or too busy to notice the disparity.

Quote from: K-Dog on Mar 08, 2025, 06:02 AMA shithead like Musk who receives government welfare to build his industries and who then faces no competition from competitors is not a genius.  In Musk's situation an idiot could succeed.  And did.

So..do you know how much government welfare Musk received for his creation of the company that was sold to form PayPal and netted him $1.5 BILLION, thereby establishing him as someone deserving of his mail box money no different than you.

Or are you referring to later on...AFTER he obviously put himself in a different class of accomplishment and got noticed?

Maybe any of us, creative enough to make our first BILLION before the age of 32, could have done what he ended up doing, regardless of who helped him at the size and scale he leveraged his capabilities to later?

We all have worked for what we have K-Dog. You, me, Elon. Even RE. All in different ways I imagine, the results being mailbox money or accolades or happiness, hedonism or building a solid family in a world not necessarily making that as easy as it once was.

Life is funny, the way it turns out. So Elon got lucky, is smart, had advantages many of us didn't, and turned it into something other than what we did? Shit, I don't care about how he got his mailbox money any more than how you got yours. Just oozes negative vibes, wasted emotion and energy, hell it's going to be 60F tomorrow and I've got money in the bank and a motorcycle to ride and 2 publications in review and who gives a shit about what others have? I'm living my life, worrying or thinking about others is just...wasted energy. I'm old...I have less energy than I did when I was younger. Less energy to waste over trival shit.

Elon is a egotistical oligarch prick. <yawn> Enough thinking about him....I've got to find my helmet, hopefully you other geezers are having a good weekend doing what interests you and just letting negative energy roll off your backs.

Quote from: TDoS on Mar 08, 2025, 09:44 AM

Quote from: K-Dog on Mar 08, 2025, 06:02 AMA shithead like Musk who receives government welfare to build his industries and who then faces no competition from competitors is not a genius.  In Musk's situation an idiot could succeed.  And did.

So..do you know how much government welfare Musk received for his creation of the company that was sold to form PayPal and netted him $1.5 BILLION, thereby establishing him as someone deserving of his mail box money no different than you.

Or are you referring to later on...AFTER he obviously put himself in a different class of accomplishment and got noticed?

Maybe any of us, creative enough to make our first BILLION before the age of 32, could have done what he ended up doing, regardless of who helped him at the size and scale he leveraged his capabilities to later?

We all have worked for what we have K-Dog. You, me, Elon. Even RE. All in different ways I imagine, the results being mailbox money or accolades or happiness, hedonism or building a solid family in a world not necessarily making that as easy as it once was.

Life is funny, the way it turns out. So Elon got lucky, is smart, had advantages many of us didn't, and turned it into something other than what we did? Shit, I don't care about how he got his mailbox money any more than how you got yours. Just oozes negative vibes, wasted emotion and energy, hell it's going to be 60F tomorrow and I've got money in the bank and a motorcycle to ride and 2 publications in review and who gives a shit about what others have? I'm living my life, worrying or thinking about others is just...wasted energy. I'm old...I have less energy than I did when I was younger. Less energy to waste over trival shit.

Elon is a egotistical oligarch prick. <yawn> Enough thinking about him....I've got to find my helmet, hopefully you other geezers are having a good weekend doing what interests you and just letting negative energy roll off your backs.

All money is the same to TDOS.  Stolen money, and that earned by the fruits of labor are the same to him.  But if he disagrees, I do not have to hear it for a week.  I have had enough of his insulting shit.  Enjoy your week off TDOS.  I should altogether ban your ass permanently.  You should start your own website.  White racist cracker who worships the divine rite of kings. That would be an appropriate title for you.  You can rant about how privilege is the natural order of the universe, and how you deserve to be one of the privileged few.  One of the bullies.  One of those who think they can tell others what to do just because they can, sans any rational and compassionate considerations other than that which satisfies their ego.  Sans any consideration beyond their personal horizon.

There are about 2000 working hours in a year and in a fifty year working career that works out to 100,000 hours.  At thirty dollars an hour that works out to three million dollars.  The maximum that someone could actually earn by working.  And considering that we can't save everything, having close to that is impossible through honest labor.

Elon has not earned shit, he has created nothing of value.  Teslas are the wrong kind of car, and Mars colonization should not even be on the agenda.  Not in this century, there is too much real work to do.

Musk has shown himself to be a heartless bastard with an emotional I.Q. of zero.  Nothing more than a bull in a china shop money chaser.

* Musk became CEO of the combined company but was pushed out in late 2000 while on vacation. Peter Thiel replaced him.  Musk benefited massively from PayPal's success, but he had little to do with it.  He was just in the right place, took early risks, and held onto his shares despite being ousted from the company. Kicked out of the company he went along for the ride as PayPal' grew, he let other people make him $175 million when it was sold.

In America this is confused with earning the money yourself.  It is a common mental illness.  And from this derangement all money is seen as deserved.

Quote from: K-Dog on Mar 08, 2025, 02:35 PMI have had enough of his insulting shit.  Enjoy your week off TDOS.  I should altogether ban your ass permanently.  You should start your own website.

Goodness...why? What use would a website be to me? 

Quote from: K-DogWhite racist cracker who worships the divine rite of kings.

How rude! Sure...I was born into a crackerhood, but where do you get racist? I always thought I was an indiscriminate fact checking subject matter expert ex-hilljack and NONE of that ever involves race or gender or age or DEI category, etc etc.

Quote from: K-DogYou can rant about how privilege is the natural order of the universe, and how you deserve to be one of the privileged few.

Don't recall ever ranting about privilege, don't ever recall mentioning how little of that I ever was born with or grew along the way, (and according to the new forum rules I signed after my most recent comeback) can you quote me please where I said that it is the natural order of the universe?

And much like your sensitivity, I don't DESERVE what I have, like you I EARNED it. You, me and RE, we earned our current place in the world, working men all.

Quote from: K-DogElon has not earned shit, he has created nothing of value.

Would you care to define "value" as you see it? Because that isn't the same word as "work" which you defined roughly as "$30/hour for XX decades".

How does a 401k fit into your world of "work"? It isn't obvious, but aren't market investments, including purchasing real estate, fair game for everyone, including the $30/hr working man?

Quote from: TDoS on Mar 15, 2025, 05:15 PMDon't recall ever ranting about privilege, don't ever recall mentioning how little of that I ever was born with or grew along the way

You must have forgot to take your Alzheimer's meds.  Every time you talk about my fictional silver spoon you regale us with your poverty filled childhood.

Far as the utility of your own website goes, no cooler there.  Off you go.

RE

Quote from: RE on Mar 15, 2025, 06:39 PM

Quote from: TDoS on Mar 15, 2025, 05:15 PMDon't recall ever ranting about privilege, don't ever recall mentioning how little of that I ever was born with or grew along the way

You must have forgot to take your Alzheimer's meds.  Every time you talk about my fictional silver spoon you regale us with your poverty filled childhood.

Far as the utility of your own website goes, no cooler there.  Off you go.

RE

And my silver spoon means I can pay for my coffee and croissant on the way to work in only twenty minutes after I get there.  But that does not stop him from bringing up the expensive carz he alleges I have.

If you did not have that this would do:

QuoteHow does a 401k fit into your world of "work"? It isn't obvious, but aren't market investments, including purchasing real estate, fair game for everyone, including the $30/hr working man?

Being critical of normal behavior would have done.  Reactionaries are always trying to confuse obvious issues.  Here the reactionary is exceptionally diabolical. Social security should be strong enough to make 401Ks a relic, it is an inferior retirement instrument in an enlightened socialist society.  But there is a mental trick to flip the tables at play.  Their failure as reactionaries to make the distinction between personal and private property is their stock and trade.  Trying to always put the words 'all owning property bad' in our mouths.  That is why he brings it up.  The hope is that I get pissed off and go off on a rant.  Portray myself as irrational.  Instead of:

Part of a strong social program should be allowing elective deductions with a 5% rate backed by the government.  Mention of real-estate and such you also mentioned to confuse the issue.  A working man MUST (it is a fucking right) be able to preserve some of his/hers own dead labor in an investment.  Key being his/her/it's OWN dead labor, that would earn a government backed 5% should I be king.  Society rewarding responsible behavior.  I'm down with it.

* As I toil at my McJob with the brainpower to have figured out profit sharing could double my wage in a heartbeat, I recall that I work at the end of a third world supply chain where the number of people getting screwed are countless.  I might actually be getting a fair shake if it were all balanced out.  I might be the mathematical anomaly.  Doin ok with a reasonable chance of passing through the eye of the needle.

Quote from: TDoS on Mar 15, 2025, 05:15 PMHow does a 401k fit into your world of "work"? It isn't obvious, but aren't market investments, including purchasing real estate, fair game for everyone, including the $30/hr working man?

No.  At $30/hr there isn't enough surplus income to effectively invest in RE or the SM.  It translates to $50K/yr, which is below the median household income.  If you are a frugal person you can just about live on the median income and save a little for emergencies and medical bills.

15 years ago when I left the working world I was making $40K, the median income at the time.  I am very frugal and was able to save around $3K/yr.   If you extrapolate over 30 years of saving $300/mo invested with an average ROI of 7%/yr.  That gives you $500K in assets.  Retire, 7% gets you a retirement income of $35K.  You might just squeak by with this if you never have a big medical bill or floods, fire, tornado and your kid didn't need braces or need some help with college tuition.  This also assumes a very good average ROI.   You don't get 7% on T-bills or CDs, you need some riskier investments in your poortfolio to get there.

Realistically these days, you need to be making 6 figures before you have enough surplus to do investing.  Frankly it takes 6 figures just to afford that 1 big investment, your McMansion.  Plus the first 5 years you're not saving for retirement, you're saving for the down payment.  My general rule is that whatever the median income is, you need to make about double that to join the Investor Class.

Social Security is a means to insure the society as much as the individual.  Prior to the invention of such systems by Otto von Bismark, the cities were full of beggars who either died or got stuffed into debtors prisons.  Younger people could work faster at lower wages, so by the time they hit 60 with no job security they were on the street.  It's not an investment system to make people rich, it's society's insurance against having impoverished old people begging on the street.  That's currently all it does, for a comfortable retirement you need ADDITIONAL sources of income like Pensions & 401Ks.  You have to be a pretty high earner through most of your life to achieve that.

RE

Quote from: RE on Today at 02:12 AM

Quote from: TDoS on Mar 15, 2025, 05:15 PMHow does a 401k fit into your world of "work"? It isn't obvious, but aren't market investments, including purchasing real estate, fair game for everyone, including the $30/hr working man?

No.  At $30/hr there isn't enough surplus income to effectively invest in RE or the SM.  It translates to $50K/yr, which is below the median household income.  If you are a frugal person you can just about live on the median income and save a little for emergencies and medical bills.

15 years ago when I left the working world I was making $40K, the median income at the time.  I am very frugal and was able to save around $3K/yr.   If you extrapolate over 30 years of saving $300/mo invested with an average ROI of 7%/yr.  That gives you $500K in assets.  Retire, 7% gets you a retirement income of $35K.  You might just squeak by with this if you never have a big medical bill or floods, fire, tornado and your kid didn't need braces or need some help with college tuition.  This also assumes a very good average ROI.   You don't get 7% on T-bills or CDs, you need some riskier investments in your poortfolio to get there.

Realistically these days, you need to be making 6 figures before you have enough surplus to do investing.  Frankly it takes 6 figures just to afford that 1 big investment, your McMansion.  Plus the first 5 years you're not saving for retirement, you're saving for the down payment.  My general rule is that whatever the median income is, you need to make about double that to join the Investor Class.

Social Security is a means to insure the society as much as the individual.  Prior to the invention of such systems by Otto von Bismark, the cities were full of beggars who either died or got stuffed into debtors prisons.  Younger people could work faster at lower wages, so by the time they hit 60 with no job security they were on the street.  It's not an investment system to make people rich, it's society's insurance against having impoverished old people begging on the street.  That's currently all it does, for a comfortable retirement you need ADDITIONAL sources of income like Pensions & 401Ks.  You have to be a pretty high earner through most of your life to achieve that.

RE

Bitcoin was 70$ when my alterego told us it was the future.  investing 400$ then would be a million now. never too late..

Im not 100% sure, but i think Elon may have been born a ♀️ woman. Those people are connected to the super wealthy to begin with. Family backgrounds are just cover stories.