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Started by K-Dog, Oct 25, 2025, 07:18 PM

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K-Dog

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TODAY.COM2025-10-27

The USDA Ended Its Annual Hunger Report. What Does That Mean for Food Banks?

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WSWS.ORG2025-10-27

Trump prepared to starve tens of millions of Americans by allowing food stamp funding to run out Saturday

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RE

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Note that Trumpolini got his Billionaire friends to chip in 300M to build a ballroom and $180M to keep military paychecks flowing, but doesn't bother raising money for kids to eat.

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K-Dog

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TDoS

Quote from: K-Dog on Oct 27, 2025, 02:02 PMTrump prepared to starve tens of millions of Americans by allowing food stamp funding to run out Saturday

I wonder, in a country where death by starvation is pretty much zero, how long it will take it to increase to tens of millions? The assumption being that NO FOOD STAMPS + TIME = STARVATION.

Back in the day I remember no food stamps and hunger, but not starvation.

I've often wondered at the economics of the modern traffic corner panhandlers from foreign countries plying their craft, what resources were available to them, to look non-starving as they worked to get window washing money. Found it difficult to believe that they could do more than get some food money doing the window washing gig, but then the question would seem to be where they stay? Just part of the general homeless population? And I am presuming they aren't smoking or snorting the cash they get on the corner as opposed to getting food. 


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Even during the Great Depression, virtually no one died of "starvation".  At least according to their death certificates.  People with nutritional defiencies just get sick more often and die of opportunistic diseases.  Kids are under weight and small for their age.  They can't concentrate and have problems learning.  For families currently getting their food from the SNAP program, just where do you think they will find their food?  Church pantries will all of a sudden pop up stocked with food?  Mickey D's will offer free Big Macs to hungry kids? Concerned Amerikans will pass out sandwiches in poor neighborhoods?  What?

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Maybe the courts will feed the kids.

NYTIMES.COM2025-10-28

Dozens of States Sue Trump Administration Over Planned Food Stamp Cuts

The states petitioned a federal court days after the Agriculture Dept. said it would not take emergency steps to provide aid during the government shutdown.

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TDoS

Quote from: RE on Oct 28, 2025, 10:38 AMEven during the Great Depression, virtually no one died of "starvation".  At least according to their death certificates.  People with nutritional defiencies just get sick more often and die of opportunistic diseases.  Kids are under weight and small for their age.  They can't concentrate and have problems learning.

Well, that makes perfect sense. Maybe WSWS was doing one of those overly dramatic type things because, you know, it is what the internet and MSM do.

Quote from: REFor families currently getting their food from the SNAP program, just where do you think they will find their food? 
The same place the Venezuelans do on the street corner doing the window washing? Any place they can afford it. I am interested in the strain on local food banks, that should be rolling in from the local papers within days of food subsidies stopping I imagine.

Quote from: REChurch pantries will all of a sudden pop up stocked with food?
Depends on the parisheners I imagine. Certainly the wife and I are targeting where our support would best be utilized among local charities and whatnot. We started last week on the grounds that there is no reason to wait for the folks in the government to begin punishing those who live on the edge.

Quote from: REMickey D's will offer free Big Macs to hungry kids?
Unlikely. But more likely that some conglomerate or another will want to make headlines and do exactly something like that. With TV cameras from local news outlets around.

Quote from: REConcerned Amerikans will pass out sandwiches in poor neighborhoods?  What?
RE

Concerned Americans, myself included, have already figured out what we are going to do. Normal American scumbags probably aren't even going to notice.

RE

Great!  Nothing to worry about then.



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K-Dog

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WISCONSINWATCH.ORG2025-10-22

Wisconsin members of Congress point fingers as SNAP benefits run out

The state will run out of SNAP funds for nearly 700,000 people on Nov. 1



SEATTLEPI.COM2025-10-29

Federal government shutdown threatens SNAP food aid as several states scramble to help

With federal SNAP food assistance set to run dry this weekend amid the protracted U.S. government shutdown, Louisiana, New Mexico and Vermont became the latest states Wednesday to announce help for low-income households that rely on the funds to eat.

RE


Looks like Trumpolini's plans to starve poor people will need to be  revised.  Apparently a few Judges actually have a conscience.  I'm sure he'll come up with a new scheme though.  Maybe make SNAP cards for Whites Only.



THEGUARDIAN.COM2025-10-31

Trump administration blocked from suspending Snap benefits for millions of Americans

One judge issued temporary restraining order while another judge ruled the government must continue to fund program that helps low-income households

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TDoS

Quote from: RE on Oct 28, 2025, 07:14 PMGreat!  Nothing to worry about then.



RE

I wonder, sometimes, if endless doom scrolling doesn't itself affect the scroller, in that just because someone says, prints, offers up something that a scroller wants to believe, it immediately has credibility .

And those who stop to compare the story, claim, news article....the words used in telling the story, their apparent intent, how the claim was built, the logic and reasoning behind it, the comparison using a modicum of critical thinking or logic or experience, can be anathema to a scroller.

How much time do you think might be required RE, before someone's physical and social disconnect from a wide range of personal interaction with different perspectives, like different age and intelligence groups, across wide geographic areas (things really are different in Kansas than California) before this type of isolation might make someone susceptible to mistaking things in the online world for a certain reality?

RE

Quote from: TDoS on Nov 01, 2025, 08:31 AMHow much time do you think might be required RE, before someone's physical and social disconnect from a wide range of personal interaction with different perspectives, like different age and intelligence groups, across wide geographic areas (things really are different in Kansas than California) before this type of isolation might make someone susceptible to mistaking things in the online world for a certain reality?


I think it would vary by quite a bit between different individuals.  Different people handle isolation differently, some have a high tolerance for it, others little to none.   Some people could handle being shipwrecked alone like Robinson Crusoe and be happy, others become desperately lonely or lose their sanity.

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TDoS

Quote from: RE on Nov 01, 2025, 11:01 AM
Quote from: TDoS on Nov 01, 2025, 08:31 AMHow much time do you think might be required RE, before someone's physical and social disconnect from a wide range of personal interaction with different perspectives, like different age and intelligence groups, across wide geographic areas (things really are different in Kansas than California) before this type of isolation might make someone susceptible to mistaking things in the online world for a certain reality?


I think it would vary by quite a bit between different individuals.
Indeed.

Quote from: REDifferent people handle isolation differently, some have a high tolerance for it, others little to none.  Some people could handle being shipwrecked alone like Robinson Crusoe and be happy, others become desperately lonely or lose their sanity.

A great way of saying my entire point is irrelevant among the general population.

But the question wasn't posed among the general population. It was posed amongst a particular population, including some with limited capabilities (as compared to the general population) that restrict exactly any physical truth testing of the kind I mentioned.

As a similar example, thinking among even the general population, how many internet denizens have real time access to a PhD? Many PhD's? In a live fire exercise of ideas? I wonder how a, or any, perspective might shift or change when the opposing side isn't an article half written by AI from some just graduated college newbie regurgitating something to catch a doomscrollers eye?

What is that famous phrase of literature. "Start with an earthquake, and build to a climax."? Can you imagine how naturally this idea, in practice, would sucker in everyone it touches who doesn't know better? Doesn't WANT to know better? Is only looking for this kind of "information" without regard for validity?


RE

Quote from: TDoS on Nov 01, 2025, 03:05 PMWhat is that famous phrase of literature. "Start with an earthquake, and build to a climax."? Can you imagine how naturally this idea, in practice, would sucker in everyone it touches who doesn't know better? Doesn't WANT to know better? Is only looking for this kind of "information" without regard for validity?

Depends on how much the person reads about earthquakes and  the context in which the quote is used.  Is it literally talking about earthquakes, or a literary device for a plot line?  Certainly plenty of information available on earthquakes to read up on; also plenty of literary criticism.   What is the point here?

RE