Quote from: K-Dog on Sep 13, 2023, 11:59 AMAn Inconvenient Apocalypse doesn't describe how decline in population will occur, or discuss the enormous trauma elimination of the majority of humanity will certainly inflict on all those left over.

This falls into the "Reality follows Fiction." or  "Fiction anticipates Reality folders on your hard drive.

Basically this is the plot of the Marvel Cinematic Universe (MCU) Avengers Endgame film, where the villain Thanos instantly wipes out half the population of every planet in the Universe inhabited by intelligent life with a snap of his fingers, after the acquisition of the 6 "Infinity Stones".  We only get to see the emotional effect on the Superpower Avenger subset of the population of Earth however, but the viewer is expected to extend this outcome to all the other earthlings and aliens on other planets also.

The characters are all suitably emotionally devastated and the sets also empty of people, although emptier than you would expect with only half the people gone.  What was unrea;istic though is that otherwise the planet seemed to be operating basically the same way with all the lights working, trash getting picked up, carz driving around and so forth.  This is quite unrealistic, and would be even more unrealistic if the population was cut by 75%, even if that took a few years of an epidemic to accomplish.

It's really impossible to make an accurate prediction of how things will look after a population knockdown of this magnitude, other than to say society if it still holds together and functions at all will still look anything at all like it looks now.  I suspect it will be a hot mess, nothing like the Final Solution and route to a more wonderful world that Thanos predicts it will be.

However it will end up though, you can be sure it most certainly WILL come, and unlike the Avengers we won't be able to go back in time to bring it back to the way it was..

RE.

QuoteI suspect it will be a hot mess, nothing like the Final Solution and route to a more wonderful world that Thanos predicts it will be.

"For a generation after the fall anyone reading a book was stoned to death.  Technology had created the conditions for overshoot.  The survivors for the most part did not understand what overshoot was, but a hatred of technology had replaced techno narcissism and the draconian religion of re-wilding had the world in sway." From "When Giants Fell"  (Published in New Petrograd 2318 by Caleb Newman).



I don't accept that "Reality follows Fiction." or that "Fiction anticipates Reality, but speculation is fun.

I am posting this primarily so I will watch it again.  The reason is the interview is totally five star and I was doing other things that interfered with my concentration.




Ugo Bardi is mentioned.  We are only one step away from Rachel and this You Tube Channel.



RE and I have a Bacon number of 1 relative to Planet Critical.

This is seriously one of the best interviews I have ever listened to.

https://chasingthesquirrel.com/public/music/patrickophulsonwhycivilizationsfail.mp3

Dr. Patrick Ophuls (who writes under the pen name William Ophuls) is an American political scientist, ecologist, and author.

Interviewed by John Bell, Director of The Conciliators Guild, about his book 'Immoderate Greatness: Why Civilizations Fail.'

And there's moar:


Tainter's complexity discussed, exponential growth.  Patrick understands we are in a double bind.  Collapse could be averted with massive changes that the American polity WON'T put up with.  The speed of social change needed is impossibly fast.  That is one side of this unity of opposites.
The other side of the bind is that normal social change is slow and being slow collapse happens before society makes any significant change.


People don't get that the peak always looks good.

I have been busy.  Doing what I have to do to secure the Diner from the FSoA is no small task, and I don't let it to stop me from making this website a more interesting place.

This is an easy guest post because I'll only give the audio.

You want the text?

Rather than cut and paste the article text from a link that is easily opened, I'll instead tell you how to get it:

• Click the globe in the upper right to go to the main page.
• Below the mosaic of colors tap the green open icon.  You will see the Diner.  Never mind that.
• Click the search icon magnifying glass.
• In the new search field type 'sheep' and hit return or tap the search icon again.
• Now you can make it full screen with the full screen icon.

Or, to put it another way is the title of the article.

The toolbar app you just used is not finished yet.  The men in black have slowed me down.  But it is far enough along to be better than what I had, so I put it up.