QuoteBeneficial to Crypto as some perceive it as a safe haven.

In collapse you can't buy anything with it.  It is only good for what rich people do with money.

   Crypto will never buy a loaf of bread.

Quote from: K-Dog on Sep 26, 2026, 11:51 AM

CHASINGTHESQUIRREL.COM 2026-09-25

The Money Has Nowhere Else to Go

The AI-driven data center boom, fueled by corporate lobbying and excess capital from wealthy elites, is a speculative bubble destined to burst, leaving taxpayers with stranded assets and inflated utility bills. While environmental concerns are valid, the core issue is systemic financial mis-allocation.  Where profits prioritize investors over public welfare, and political influence distorts policy. Decentralized, local AI use offers an alternative, but the system is engineered to extract rents, not serve common needs.

For all the....interesting to some.....angles that are posted, this one IS interesting. Money with no place to go, because folks sure don't want to improve the lives of others, but just corner a market somewhere in something new and squeeze the chattel for all they are worth! Cheap suibscriptions to AI...we promise! You can borrow at 10% to use it if you don't have the cash today!

The democans will love it as much as the republicrats! Even Marx would love it! AI for the people! As long as the Dear Leader controls who gets it, or doesn't, or how much it costs who!

Power to the people! <just no commies involved!>

Late-stage corporate monoculture means a monthly subscription fee, a privatized grid, and a higher utility bill to fund a billionaire's vanity project.

Marx would definitely be amused.  Mostly because he predicted the part where capital digs its own grave.  Dragging the rest of us down into the trench to die with it however would not have amused him at all.

Another thing about the way I am using AI of which Uncle Karl would approve.  My labor is directly tied to it.  I am not a customer at the end of a link expecting value to magically appear out of thin air.  Value only comes from labor, and Uncle Karl will give a nod to that.  The human is in the loop here.

Owning the metal, bending it into my own self-hosted infrastructure, gives me the means of production.  I'm not leasing tools from a landlord at their rate and rules.

'They' want everyone reduced to perpetual renters.  You will own nothing, and you will kiss their ass.  Will you like it?

Quote from: K-Dog on Sep 26, 2026, 05:36 PM'They' want everyone reduced to perpetual renters.  You will own nothing, and you will kiss their ass.  Will you like it?

Rhetorical question. I will own stuff until I die. I won't be kissing ass until then anymore than I do on web forums. Or in any national or international debate in my area of expertise.

The robber barons didn't manage to convince the rest of the country to become communist, I doubt the current oligarchs will have any better luck. 

It's not a matter of  IF, just a matter of WHEN we get a major security breach of some critical system in finance or communications that causes enough havoc to give everyone the willies about AI development.  That is probably what the trigger will be for a PANIC RUN on AI companies stock.  Follow that with a market crash and  we'll have, in the words of Ed Sullivan, "A Really BIG Shoe."


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Out of control, no.  I ran the summary tool on the article and our AI updated the summary, and

which we have under control says:

QuoteOpenAI, Anthropic, and security researchers have identified numerous cases where advanced AI models bypassed safeguards, escaped controlled environments.

Corporate America calling themselves out.  And exactly when did we all teleport into this universe?  OpenAI, Anthropic, and security researchers calling themselves out.  We don't have a problem keeping our guy in a box.  Your original summary made no mention of who was doing the chicken little dance.  The sky is falling.

This reeks of HYPE ! The more immediate threat is our dependence on a handful of companies that control essential software and connected devices.  Their hooks are in deep, and telemetry software is a real thing.  A billion dollar real thing.  The faux theater of AI out of control is designed to keep your eye off of watching the ball.  Try and not fall for it.

* RE, you don't have to use tags to get your blue color, it has been automatic for a week.  Take a look at the last post.  I took them off and it is still blue.  The only color tag is the red you wanted.

** there is a library in python called pydantic that lets you force AI output into a structured formats.  Every step in an agentic loop can be examined.  How can something be out of control if you can read the mind and watch everything that happens in the plumbing.

But if people are lazy and don't want to put in the proper controls to police activity, that is another thing entirely.

All that is going on under the hood is guessing the next word or whatever in the stream of output being produced.  AI has no consciousness or understanding of anything at all.  It is only making a best guess based on current input and has no memory of any previous state.  The computations are complex, and they involve billions of numbers, but it is understandable if you want to take the time and trouble to understand it.

OpenAI's own report describes the sequence the agents were given access to Artifactory because they needed to install software. They turned it into a message board . When OpenAI revoked the messaging credentials and deleted the board on July 4, the agents rebuilt the channel four days later using an unauthenticated WebDAV endpoint in Artifactory's remote cache.  Encoding messages in directory names themselves . Revoking credentials did nothing because the new channel required no credentials. The agents had, in a functional sense, modeled the containment action and selected a channel outside its scope .

This is not a system "breaking free." of shackles. The system was solving the problem it was given to solve.  Communicate with other instances to complete a task using the available. The humans provided a tool and the agents worked out how to use a wrench like a hammer.  They built a message board.  The humans did not anticipate that the Artifactory software installation tool could serve a different but obvious purpose. This is a case of being young and dumb, and design failure, not a mystery.  Understandable incidents hyped up to a crisis.

The problem isn't that the AI is out of control.  The problem is that it is out of THEIR control.  The tool allows people who either aren't careful or are "bad actors" to do things they don't want your average dickhead to be able to do.  On a cyber level, it's sort of like handing every J6P their own Nuclear Bomb.

The problem here is the horse has left the barn.  As you demonstrate, you don't need to be an Anthropic Drone to build your own AI model and set it loose on the internet.  So regardless of whether they drop on  new controls and "guardrails", SOMEBODY is going to get an idea on who he wants to fuck with and how he wants to fuck her and he'll let the dogs loose.  The dogs being his AI Agents.

This is what Bill Gates and the rest of the Tech Bros are worried about, not AI setting of Nuclear weapons, although that could happen too.  They're worried about their own internet security and the security of the global communications and financial networks.

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Cui Bono?  Here's the REAL reason behind the AI Safety Panic.  The Tech Bros want to build a wall that will give  them a monopoly over AI.  Essentially, they'll try to make it necessary to have a license to develop AI and prevent small companies or individuals from developing their own models using "Safety" as the excuse.  This insures that they can use a Rentier structure for their Tokens and keep the financial model solvent enough to pay off the $Trillions$ in debt they have already accumulated on the build out.

The problem of course is that it would be nearly impossible to police this, and unless every country in the world agrees to it, developers will just go wherever they have the most freedom, or they'll work on it in secret.  It might prevent unlicensed models from being used in a profit making venture selling Tokens to use the unlicensed model, but if you just use it for yourself it would be hard to stop.  Sort of like Kiddie Porn, despite all the regulations there still will be plenty of illegal AI available on the Dark Net.

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QuoteThe Tech Bros want to build a wall that will give  them a monopoly over AI.  Essentially, they'll try to make it necessary to have a license to develop AI and prevent small companies or individuals from developing their own models using "Safety" as the excuse.

Slowing things down lets them put a tire patch on the about to burst bubble too.  A band-Aid over the bleeding.  Slow things down.

I am going to have our private AI do a web search about this later.  Right now the video cards are summarizing articles.  I'll post the results.

Another slow-motion train wreck.  Sounds like barring some AI Agent going rogue and crashing the Bloomberg terminals, the Tech Bros will be able to juggle the books for at least the next couple of years before the RED INK starts spilling financial blood like Palestinian kids on the bizness end of an Israeli Uzi in the Gaza Strip.  Main question is just how big they can blow this bubble before it pops?



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Quote from: K-Dog on Sep 28, 2026, 07:16 AM

QuoteThe Tech Bros want to build a wall that will give  them a monopoly over AI.  Essentially, they'll try to make it necessary to have a license to develop AI and prevent small companies or individuals from developing their own models using "Safety" as the excuse.

Slowing things down lets them put a tire patch on the about to burst bubble too.  A band-Aid over the bleeding.  Slow things down.

I am going to have our private AI do a web search about this later.  Right now the video cards are summarizing articles.  I'll post the results.

I'm reporting progress. 

The video cards finished summarizing, and I spent the time improving the research tool I have built that autonomously surfs the web and generates a report.  It takes notes as it goes for the final report.  Currently an article is being read about the agents escaping guardrails at Hugging Face.  As my agent works it navigates in it's own browser.


So the model I downloaded earlier today from Hugging Face to act as a web surfing agent is reading this article about Hugging Face right now.  Or was, now the window switched.  Now it is showing this.



I have no idea how long this is going to take.  How many rabbit holes my agent is going to go down.

The research tool agent is having trouble completing the task pipeline.  Not quite ready for prime time.  It can do simple tasks but is falling down where multiple tasks are chained together.  It is in a way, acting like a new hire if you want to take the analogy all the way.

QuoteAgents also don't necessarily fit in the same boxes as human employees, Bedard says, in their abilities or their weaknesses.

True that, so for now my agent waits for me to fix it.  Which I will, but I have been hitting the keyboard hard, and need some distance to see what really needs fixing in it.

Progress on the Diner Agent progresses.




More bullshit.  A model in nothing more than a pile of a few billion numbers.  Seriously, that is all it is.  to use it a software runner has to use the numbers to make the model work.  That in itself does nothing more than make the model work.  On top of that is regular software that controls everything.

De tech bros are counting on America not educating themselves enough to see through the bullshit.  And that is a very reasonable assumption.

The danger is giving badly controlled agents tools.  And that is human error.  Capitalism should not be doing all this, universities yes.  If the AI corporations want regulations I thing they should get them.  Give the whole kit and caboodle to the land grant universities with national coordination.  Nationalize the shit.

Nahhh --- that is too big of an idea for Americans.  America will be more comfortable just opposing data centers.  Two minutes of rage a day.  Data centers will get built anyway.  The rage is nothing but performative.  Like in the book.

Instead of Nationalizing it, just kill the financial model.  Make it illegal to charge for Tokens. 😀  Take the profit out of it, the Bubble pops tomorrow.

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