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Trump's ICE shoots woman in Minneapolis

Started by K-Dog, Jan 07, 2026, 01:42 PM

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K-Dog

Quote from: TDoS on Jan 16, 2026, 10:24 AM
Quote from: K-DogThis you will find NOWHERE in mainstream news.

No play at all.

You mean, except for THIS mainstream media? I mean seriously folks....get a better news feed. CBS most certainly isn't the usual internet based advocacy group pretending they have a lock on whatever.   

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/dueling-accounts-of-ice-shooting-of-venezuelan-migrant-in-minneapolis/


How is it that you can say we are mainstream media when I own this place, and I say we are not.

K-Dog

#61

I am posting the MLPS clips on our server because the idea that once 'it gets on the internet' it is there forever is total bullshit.

The arrogance of playing the ICE cream truck tune.  Law enforcement professionals they ARE NOT.  Not that I give two shits that they are professional or not.  Because subtract 240 from the new year, and you are back in the year 1776.

These are the King's men.


K-Dog

#62
COMMONDREAMS.ORG2026-01-15

3 Children Hospitalized in Minneapolis After Family Van Hit With ICE Flash-Bangs

"Officers threw flash-bangs and tear gas in my car. I got six kids in the car," said the children's father. "My 6-month-old can't even breathe."

K-Dog

#63
THEDAILYBEAST.COM2026-01-15

ICE Barbie Warns Americans Must Be Prepared to Prove Citizenship

Secretary of Homeland Security Kristi Noem defended ICE agents who are demanding that Americans prove they are U.S. citizens in Minneapolis amid escalating tensions.

RE


K-Dog

#65
404MEDIA.CO2026-01-14

Podcast: The ICE Tool That Tracks Entire Neighborhoods

We start this week with Joseph's article about Webloc, a tool ICE bought that can monitor phones in entire neighborhoods.



Here the author is interviewed.

When I was being gang stalked it stopped when I started leaving my phone at home.  Before that there was a man or woman in shiny black pants wearing a shirt bleached so white it hurt my eyes waiting for me wherever destination I was going to.


K-Dog

#67
NEWYORKER.COM2026-01-13

What Comes After the Protests

The killing of Renee Nicole Good by an ICE agent in Minneapolis will continue to bring people to the streets. Can it bring change?

TDoS

Quote from: RE on Jan 16, 2026, 10:44 AMAs I mentioned earlier, we have reached a  point where we have a new crisis on practically a daily basis.

So now you need a reasonable definition of "crisis". Particularly if you want to stack a bunck of them together to get to "collapse". Idiot politicians doing idiot things could be a crisis....depending on your definition. But we can name plenty of "crisis" going back before you and I were born....remember Rosa Parks and the reaction? Me neither, not old enough to notice. How about The Little Rock Nine? Crisis worthy of tearing the country apart. But doesn't really get to collapse much.

Quote from: REThere's so much mayhem ongoing out there now it's impossible to follow all of it and keep up.  Information overload results in many important stories being missed or overlooked.

Well, information overload is a condition of the internet being available, pumping out everything from bullshit nonsense to good opinions, informed or otherwise, people confusing opinions with fact and suckering in god knows how many..remember peak oil? Yeah, me neither....rarely get a call nowadays.

Quote from: RECurrently, on the macro level there are 3 wicked problems that are leading goobermint toward failure here in the FSoA.  Wicked problems are intractable with no politically palatable answers that polarize opinions resulting in legislative lockup.  The rapidly growing homeless problem, the affordability crisis for the middle class and the immigration problems are affecting large numbers of people in many communities across the FSoA at the same time.

Three reasonable mentions, and okay, let's call them "crisis".

Homeless problem has been here for quite some time, undoubtedly called a crisis by some spanning decades. How long does a crisis have to be occuring with no one really caring before we can decide it must not be a crsis, because otherwise we would do something about it. The affordability problem for the middle class? It is certainly a problem, seemingly intractable indeed, but hardly unsolvable. More like....the pressure applied by those being affected by it doesn't amount to enough pressure on the powers that be. Yet. As far as immigration, I'll make you a bet. That when the next Democan gets back to being President, maybe the rules that the Orange one are inventing on the fly will be kept. Maybe with some small modifications to pretend to be nicer. But most will be kept. Because Americans do seem to back some form of restriction of non white, non-Christian, non "like us" whatever. Call it....Americans don't mind xenophobia in small doses?

Quote from: REYou can't control chaos when the numbers grow large and it's geographically spread out and not confined to a single location.
True. But then you call it a revolution. And they come in small or big sizes...and then maybe that takes care of some of the "political intractability" issue.

Quote from: REI do see a more generalized breakdown of law & order coming out of this with a rise in home invasions in wealthy neighborhoods and increased gang activity in low income neighborhoods.  Possibly also a rise in kidnappings and assassinations of corporate executives along with sabotage of the internet, electric grid and oil production and distribution faciities.  Berlin recently had their elecyricity knocked out for 3 days by sabotage.

Well, maybe a small crisis or two in there. But there certainly is no current spate of corporate kidnapping and assassinations, sabotage of the internet, or folks attacking electric grids or oil production. And oil production is an EASY one, I can come up with half a dozen ways to screw that pooch. And folks have figured out how to bring down grids, the more interesting ones being tranformers at the right spot. Guess what? For as each as these two might be, you just don't see them happening let alone increasing to even the point of noticability.

Quote from: REA lot of this stuff is very difficult to track because it doesn't turn up in the news cycle except in the specific location where it happens.

And because the effects are so small, as in, NYC ain't lost its lights lately has it? Has the EIA tracked a spate of dropping oil or gas production because of sabotage that I've missed? Because if it mattered, folks should be able to see it in the data.

Quote from: RESo you can't track the number of home invasions occuring nationally, for instance or the increases in gang violence.

Because....no one is reporting these crimes to the police, or because no one is tallying them up?

Quote from: REHowever, this would be consistent with everything I've observed about collapse as it has progressed in other countries, so I expect it here as well now.
RE

Oh....so some of these items were straight up spculative? Well....you've been in the doom business since the last century....and we're still waiting for effects from other countries to get around to appearing here?

I'll stick with my ice analogy. Simple, easy to track, has all sorts of your signals mixed into it because of one simple metric, and no need to explain...only need to wait for it to happen and travelers bitching about "gee why can't we find ice anymore when out and about" and we'll know.

TDoS

Quote from: K-Dog on Jan 16, 2026, 07:48 PM
I am posting the MLPS clips on our server because the idea that once 'it gets on the internet' it is there forever is total bullshit.

Ok, I clicked on the video, and it played about 25 seconds and then stopped. An SUV, some guy walking around the back of it..and that is about where it stopped. Local technical issue, MIB, etc etc?

So....there was something beyond 25 seconds and it just didn't work because it is on your server?

TDoS

Quote from: K-Dog on Jan 17, 2026, 08:51 AMHere the author is interviewed.

When I was being gang stalked it stopped when I started leaving my phone at home.  Before that there was a man or woman in shiny black pants wearing a shirt bleached so white it hurt my eyes waiting for me wherever destination I was going to.

So this statement comes from the video and author, or is this a personal comment? The capitalization would appear to indicate personal experience?

RE

#71
Quote from: TDoS on Jan 17, 2026, 01:02 PMI'll stick with my ice analogy.

Stick with whatever you like.  If you had been alive in Nero's time, you would have denied Rome was collapsing while the fires burned and the barbarians sacked the city.  "Cities burn all the time!  They're built from wood!  We'll rebuild!"

In the words of Little Donnie Dark: "There are none so blind as those who will not see."



RE

K-Dog

#72
QuoteAs far as immigration, I'll make you a bet. That when the next Democan gets back to being President, maybe the rules that the Orange one are inventing on the fly will be kept. Maybe with some small modifications to pretend to be nicer. But most will be kept.

This is not a matter of disagreeing with you, you may be right.

But, not all America is white and there is actually a remote possibility that legal structures could be set so guest workers can work in agriculture, landscaping, construction and then go home.  ICE instead of deporting would process people to make sure they are documented.

But that is wishful thinking because like a cat on a hot tin roof migration has long been part of the collapse lexicon.

CGRS.UCLAWSF.EDU2024-10-23

Root Causes of Migration

How Climate Change and Environmental Degradation Impact Honduran Asylum Seekers.






and yes the capital I is me


TDoS

Quote from: RE on Jan 17, 2026, 01:32 PM
Quote from: TDoS on Jan 17, 2026, 01:02 PMI'll stick with my ice analogy.

Stick with whatever you like.  If you had been alive in Nero's time, you would have denied Rome was collapsing while the fires burned and the barbarians sacked the city.  "Cities burn all the time!  They're built from wood!  We'll rebuild!"

Burning Rome to the ground certainly was the collapse of Rome. It wasn't the collapse of the Roman Empire.

Guess what? No one has burned down a single US city, let alone enough of them to cause the effects listed in your definition of collapse.

I understand that you have been a collapse enthusiast from way back. After waiting for it probably all of this century, your only response is really only "just wait". We have been. For as long as you have argued at peakoil.com that your reason for going to Alaska was for how wonderful it would work out in the coming collapse. As I have said before, and you are pretty much a poster child for, our (you, me, Dog and maybe another reader or two) group is more likely to see a personal end than be knocked off by collapse, as per your definition.

Quote from: REIn the words of Little Donnie Dark: "There are none so blind as those who will not see."
RE

Indeed.

"There is a condition worse than blindness, and that is, seeing something that is not there." Thomas Hardy

TDoS

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Quote from: K-Dogand yes the capital I is me

Interesting. And you confronted any of these people and asked who they were or why you were being followed, or the presumptive proof was the correlation between cell phone presence and these snappily dressed people showing up?


Reply from K-Dog :

Three Conversations.  There were cover stories.  I was given a web address to visit that downloaded a virus when I visited there.  The virus triggered security because it 'phoned home' when it was plugged into a computer behind a City of Seattle firewall.  Mrs. Dog had two people from IT at her desk within 5 minutes.  I gave the copy of the website to her for safekeeping asking her to take it to work.

At the time this was all very significant to me.  The passage of years has told me that none of this matters.

I went somewhere I was not supposed to go and learned things that 'Operational Security' did not want revealed.  As I was not subject to any security agreement the only way to silence me was to fuck with my head.