[RE]

So do i hear a 2025? Thank you Mr Small company CEO. Anyone want a 2027? a 2031? Here here, do I have a 2035!

Small company CEO?  Occidental Petroleum has a market cap of $50B.  It's not Exxon, but it's hardly a small company.

Maybe she's not gonna hit it perfect, but at least she's got the stones to make a prediction.  We don't have long to wait anyhow.

She might have to eat crow predicting an oil shortage. I might have to eat crow on my prediction for a global recession.  You might have to eat crow if one of us gets it right and BAU goes south.  Only one will be right on.

Diners can place bets now.

RE

[K-Dog]

I say we harken back to the good ol' days of peak oil. Far more names in this video than just one source, making far more interesting claims, why don't we just edit all the dates on this video and start puttig it out there again?

Because it has James Howard Kunstler in it and Kunstler kicks dogs.  Specifically me.  That video started a chain of events that highlighted (from my point of view) with me being gang stalked by the FBI and other homeland security agents because  I compromised the operational security of a troll farm run on Kunstlers website with his permission. 

I was able to track visitors on Kunstler website and in commemoration of my discovery this website has a tracking ball in the upper right corner.  True fucking story, and that is half the reason why I have my own website and the Diner is where it now is.

I bought the video after I saw it at a Capital Hill Showing in Seattle.  A small theatre on 11th avenue.  The group discussion after the video was disrupted by an agent provocateur who wanted to sell leather kilts.  'Because the real reason for the worlds problem is the boys don't swing and get enough air'.

That video changed my life.  It still does.

Here is the CEO of Occidental Petroleum from RE's link, I snagged the video.

Two minutes in, she says everything but PAST PEAK.

[TDoS]

So do i hear a 2025? Thank you Mr Small company CEO. Anyone want a 2027? a 2031? Here here, do I have a 2035!

Small company CEO?  Occidental Petroleum has a market cap of $50B.  It's not Exxon, but it's hardly a small company.

You have decided to forget about who I compared this small time CEO to? Which then defines her...yes...small time CEO. Mouselike when compared to an OPEC NOC. Repeat after me....order of magnitude larger is....BIGGER. TWO orders of magnitude bigger is...REALLY...bigger.

She might have to eat crow predicting an oil shortage.

She certainly wouldn't be the first. Or 100th.

I might have to eat crow on my prediction for a global recession.  You might have to eat crow if one of us gets it right and BAU goes south.  Only one will be right on.

I never said BAU isn't going south. I've been waiting for the consequences of govenment spending during covid, inflation, out of control federal spending and borrowing to hit like a hammer. For at least a year now. I am probably as surprised it hasn't happened as those discredited peak oilers bleating how they REALLY meant global peak in 2018 instead of all those other years they brain farted on..

Thank you for validating the near impregnable quality of the Groundhog day idea. I thought it would be difficult to refute as well, based on the facts of peak oil history, it seemed a good analogy.

[TDoS]

I say we harken back to the good ol' days of peak oil. Far more names in this video than just one source, making far more interesting claims, why don't we just edit all the dates on this video and start puttig it out there again?

Because it has James Howard Kunstler in it and Kunstler kicks dogs.  Specifically me. 

Well, sounds unfortunate. Sounds like a good reason to not like the little weasel. I always thought Kuntsler (sic) was just a gadfly tool type, run of the mill Y2K doomer who went fishing for more notoriety after his technical ignorance in computer land was revealed, and went for something more...opaque.

That video started a chain of events that highlighted (from my point of view) with me being gang stalked by the FBI and other homeland security agents because  I compromised the operational security of a troll farm run on Kunstlers website with his permission. 

So Kuntsler was fronting a troll farm with all his idiot nonsense on Y2K and peak oil? Would you have any reason why the FBI would front someone generally foolish and easily dismissed, rather than someone useful to clicks and popularity and whatnot, like whomever the Taylor Swift of the day might have been? Michael "Jesus Juice" Jackson?

I bought the video after I saw it at a Capital Hill Showing in Seattle.  A small theatre on 11th avenue.  The group discussion after the video was disrupted by an agent provocateur who wanted to sell leather kilts.  'Because the real reason for the worlds problem is the boys don't swing and get enough air'.

Agent provacateur? Or a peak oiler trying to make some coin on the side, selling prepping gear for those who fell for the theme it was trying to sell?

That video changed my life.  It still does.

I caught it only after Matt Savinar began hawking it, either on peakoil.com or his original website. Certainly in the moment it had to be taken seriously.

Two minutes in, she says everything but PAST PEAK.

Well, she is exactly right. Today. Global peak oil was 6 years ago now. Don't know about you but gasoline is $2.30/gal locally, you can buy it by the tanker truck load if you've got vehicles to use it all, and cosidering peak oil consequences were supposed to arrive within weeks/months.

If $2.30 gallon is what peak oil looks like 6 years in...well....I've got bigger things to worry about. Federal deficit, government borrowing, homelessness showing up locally and spreading, including on the local rail service, etc etc.

Global peak oil circa 1979 went 15 years, everyone who claimed it was in the past for those 15 years was completely correct. And then...one day...as RE said...the original conditions changed and presto! Another peak oil dispatched by more oil.

[K-Dog]

So Kuntsler was fronting a troll farm with all his idiot nonsense on Y2K and peak oil? Would you have any reason why the FBI would front someone generally foolish and easily dismissed, rather than someone useful to clicks and popularity and whatnot, like whomever the Taylor Swift of the day might have been? Michael "Jesus Juice" Jackson?

You seriously ask why, as if 'The War On Terror' is logical?

Actually it is: The mission remains (you think it is over , take a peek, but you can look up the web address on your own) to identify people who could be potential terrorists, and put them on a list.  That is all there needs to be to it.  Cross referencing people is the way dissidents are controlled.  Basic Stazi methods used paper records.  Now A.I. is doing much of the work.  It is all about identifying the connections between people.

Come on, Kunstler has that many commenters, really?  If you think he does, grow a brain.  I don't have to think about it.  I touched the sky.

A pop figure site is not a good place to put a troll farm.  Dissidents in general do not follow pop figures.  There are exceptions:

  Yes      No

Agent provacateur? Or a peak oiler trying to make some coin on the side, selling prepping gear for those who fell for the theme it was trying to sell?

No, the delivery did not match your guess.  The personality expressed was similar to Jed Clampet from the Beverly Hillbillies.  The intent to break up the discussion was clear.  After the fact that is.  Some of the blue haired liberal ladies left speechless.  Like I told you, the boys needed air, and needed to swing free.  He made it very clear.  He was wearing one of his kilts and used hand signals.  He was not trying to sell anything, but he was pretending he was. 

Talking about your balls is not a good way to sell stuff.

Do you disagree?

[RE]

Thank you for validating the near impregnable quality of the Groundhog day idea. I thought it would be difficult to refute as well, based on the facts of peak oil history, it seemed a good analogy.

It's an analogy, yes, but that is not what you said.  You said it was the same.  An analogy is when 2 things have similarities, but they are not the same thing.  You wanted to use the same news story over again.  Not correct. If you learn the proper use of the English language, we won't have a problem.  Some writing lessons might be helpful for you to be more precise in the use of language when writing to avoid confusion.

RE

[TDoS]

So Kuntsler was fronting a troll farm with all his idiot nonsense on Y2K and peak oil? Would you have any reason why the FBI would front someone generally foolish and easily dismissed, rather than someone useful to clicks and popularity and whatnot, like whomever the Taylor Swift of the day might have been? Michael "Jesus Juice" Jackson?

You seriously ask why, as if 'The War On Terror' is logical?

No. I didn't seriously ask anything about the war on terror. Was Kuntsler a war cheerleader or something?

Talking about your balls is not a good way to sell stuff.
Do you disagree?

To be honest I have no idea. Porn stars might do it, in order to sell jock straps or something?

[TDoS]

Thank you for validating the near impregnable quality of the Groundhog day idea. I thought it would be difficult to refute as well, based on the facts of peak oil history, it seemed a good analogy.

It's an analogy, yes, but that is not what you said.  You said it was the same.  An analogy is when 2 things have similarities, but they are not the same thing.  You wanted to use the same news story over again.  Not correct. If you learn the proper use of the English language, we won't have a problem. 
RE

So you are saying that you will happily argue the semantics because you can't refute the analogy I used? Ummm...ok. You win.

[RE]

Thank you for validating the near impregnable quality of the Groundhog day idea. I thought it would be difficult to refute as well, based on the facts of peak oil history, it seemed a good analogy.

It's an analogy, yes, but that is not what you said.  You said it was the same.  An analogy is when 2 things have similarities, but they are not the same thing.  You wanted to use the same news story over again.  Not correct. If you learn the proper use of the English language, we won't have a problem. 
RE

So you are saying that you will happily argue the semantics because you can't refute the analogy I used? Ummm...ok. You win.

There's no reason to refute the analogy, because it's irrelevant.  It's ancient history. What is important is the current situation, not the situation as it existed 20 years ago.  So far, the Global Peak Energy Consumption (including Peak Oil) figure reached in 2018 has not been exceeded.  Until and unless that figure is surpassed, that marks the date for when Peak Oil was reached.    Most of the analysis I have read since indicates it will not be surpassed, so Peak Oil is history now, not a projected future date.

We can return to arguing about Peak Oil if/when this figure is surpassed.  As of data available today, we have the date for Peak Oil established already. 2018.



RE

[TDoS]

There's no reason to refute the analogy, because it's irrelevant.  It's ancient history. What is important is the current situation, not the situation as it existed 20 years ago.

I see. Well, while I am unaware of the number of times the Groundhog Day effect can continue, I am forced to admit that even in the movie of the same name, it did in fact one day stop being the Groundhog day.

Most of the analysis I have read since indicates it will not be surpassed, so Peak Oil is history now, not a projected future date.

Could be. Although it seems to me there was far more robust analysis written on the first 4 occurred or claimed peak oils this century. #5 and even moreso unpredicted #6 seemed to sneak in the door unnoticed, unpredicted and both quite unremarkable. 

We can return to arguing about Peak Oil if/when this figure is surpassed.

Of course. Just as I said, the Groundhog Day and Peak Oil, hand in hand, marching through time, discrediting legions of gurus all along the way. The King is Dead! Long Live the King! 

The good news for now is that we can bask safe in the knowledge that 6 years after it occurred, gasoline is running perhaps $2.40/gal in my neighborhood, and is available by the tanker truck load...should someone want to buy that amount.

As of data available today, we have the date for Peak Oil established already. 2018.

Absolutely. <yawn>

[RE]

Absolutely.

Your capitulation has been duly noted and filed. 

RE

[TDoS]

Absolutely.

Your capitulation has been duly noted and filed. 
RE

Good. Also note my capitulation on ALL peak oils this century. Hence the need to number my capitulations same as the peaks themselves.

Such is the connection between peak oil and the Groundhog Day.

Now that we've etablished the validity of the Groundhog Day effect within the many peak oils, do you have any estimate on the question asked previously? When do you think the Groundhog Day effect will finally end? Yes yes..I know.... 6 Groundhog Days might be the answwer....but then again.....that's what was said all the other times as well.

[RE]

Groundhog day ends when there are no people to experience days or we finally learn from our mistakes.  Groundhog day is every day, just like in the movie.  No two days were ever the same in the movie, each day Bill Murray changed something and learned from it, until by the end he finally learned enough so Andie McDowell would fall in love with him, and that broke the calendar date loop.  I have no idea how many iterations it will take for Homo Sap to learn or if we will ever learn.  Just have to see how it plays out.

RE

[K-Dog]

Groundhog day ends when there are no people to experience days or we finally learn from our mistakes.  Groundhog day is every day, just like in the movie.  No two days were ever the same in the movie, each day Bill Murray changed something and learned from it, until by the end he finally learned enough so Andie McDowell would fall in love with him, and that broke the calendar date loop.  I have no idea how many iterations it will take for Homo Sap to learn or if we will ever learn.  Just have to see how it plays out.

RE

We only ever had funding for one season of the show.  Our days have run out.  We're getting cancelled.

[RE]

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