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MegS

RE - re: #29 - Not fair to argue against a post by someone who is in the cooler.

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Quote from: comrade simba on Jan 22, 2025, 10:57 AMRE - re: #29 - Not fair to argue against a post by someone who is in the cooler.

Life is not fair.  The Diner is a microcosm of life.  ;D   He can respond when he gets out.

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MegS

Its like beating prisoners in their cell. Oh well, your house, your rules. Apply #2 & #3. It's only the interwebz, after all.

So tying in The Jewish Question and Elon's... er, gesture, Let's see what the Jews themselves have to say. 

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/1/22/adl-faces-backlash-for-defending-elon-musks-raised-arm-gesture
QuoteWashington, DC – After Elon Musk made an apparent Nazi salute at an inauguration rally for United States President Donald Trump, the Anti-Defamation League (ADL) rushed to defend the SpaceX founder.

The self-described anti-Semitism watchdog and "leading anti-hate organization in the world" dismissed Musk's raised arm as "an awkward gesture in a moment of enthusiasm" in a social media post on Monday.

Confusing. Full on genocidal action towards the Palestinians is now in the same league as Hitler's intent to drive the Jews out of his domains, but the oft-maligned nazi salute is okey doke? If this was Hollywood the director would be screaming "Who's in charge of continuity!"

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Quote from: comrade simba on Jan 22, 2025, 11:43 AMIts like beating prisoners in their cell. Oh well, your house, your rules. Apply #2 & #3. It's only the interwebz, after all.

Yes, it's exactly like that.  He' Cool Hand Luke.  I'm the Captain.  What we've got here...is FAILURE TO COMMUNICATE


QuoteSo tying in The Jewish Question and Elon's... er, gesture, Let's see what the Jews themselves have to say. 

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/1/22/adl-faces-backlash-for-defending-elon-musks-raised-arm-gesture
QuoteWashington, DC – After Elon Musk made an apparent Nazi salute at an inauguration rally for United States President Donald Trump, the Anti-Defamation League (ADL) rushed to defend the SpaceX founder.

The self-described anti-Semitism watchdog and "leading anti-hate organization in the world" dismissed Musk's raised arm as "an awkward gesture in a moment of enthusiasm" in a social media post on Monday.

Confusing. Full on genocidal action towards the Palestinians is now in the same league as Hitler's intent to drive the Jews out of his domains, but the oft-maligned nazi salute is okey doke? If this was Hollywood the director would be screaming "Who's in charge of continuity!"

Not confusing at all.  You have to realize there is a difference between the religion of Judaism and the political state of Israel.  Zionists are Nazis.  The lesson the European Jews who founded Israel took out of WWII is that he who controls the state apparatus does whatever it has to to continue its own existence.    Hitler radicalized them, and they are just as ruthless as he was.

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MegS

So you are of the opinion that the ADL is aligned with the State of Israel over jewism as a ethnic/religious group. Henceforth, the equation: ADL = Zionist = Nazi, would not be met with resistance on your part?

I'm new here so I'm reconning the terrain a bit. Assumptions usually lead to miscommunication.

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Quote from: comrade simba on Jan 22, 2025, 03:25 PMSo you are of the opinion that the ADL is aligned with the State of Israel over jewism as a ethnic/religious group. Henceforth, the equation: ADL = Zionist = Nazi, would not be met with resistance on your part?

There is no word "Jewishism".  The noun classifying the religion is "Judaism",  like "Christianity" classifies the Christian religion.

The ADL is a Zionist organization and Israel is a Zionist state.  If you break it down in set theory, Zionists are a subset of Jews.  All Zionists are Jewish, but all Jews are not Zionists.  Thus you can be anti-Zionist without being anti-semitic.  The ADL and the Israeli state however conflates them, so their position is that if you are anti-Israel, you're anti-semitic.  That's the logical fallacy which confuses the issue.  If you're clear on set theory, it shouldn't confuse you.

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K-Dog

QuoteHitler radicalized them, and they are just as ruthless as he was.

Absolutely.  And ruthless with a little help from their friends.

MegS

I didn't use the term Jewishism, you did. I said Jewism, and that along with jewist, jewey, etc. can be looked at like  Jesus freak or fundie  - dismissive disparaging slang. Anyway, we got ADL = zionist = nazi nailed down. Are there any other jewie orgs that are not part of the Cabal?

How does the Jew Banker Conspiracy theory fare here?

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Quote from: comrade simba on Jan 22, 2025, 08:28 PMHow does the Jew Banker Conspiracy theory fare here?

I don't think it's ever come up.  My personal opinion is it's not a conspiracy, it's a Tradition.  Ever since the days when Christians weren't allowed to charge interest, Jews went into the Banking Biz.  Couple this with the tradition of putting a high value on education, even impoverished Jews were good at math.  So they make good bankers, and Jews tend to hire other Jews.  That's clannishness, not conspiracy.



Far as Jewism as slang goes, never heard that.  Or Jewie.  I think the usual terms are Hebs, Yids or Kikes.  I use some slang for fun, like Krauts and Nips and Frogs.  However, I stay away from the really incendiary ones like Niggers and Chinks.  I feel they carry too much baggage and you can be misinterpreted too easily for being racist.  I would put the slang used for Jews in the same category.  Makes it too easy to be interpreted as being an antisemite.

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K-Dog

Quote from: comrade simba on Jan 22, 2025, 08:28 PMI didn't use the term Jewishism, you did. I said Jewism, and that along with jewist, jewey, etc. can be looked at like  Jesus freak or fundie  - dismissive disparaging slang. Anyway, we got ADL = zionist = nazi nailed down. Are there any other jewie orgs that are not part of the Cabal?

How does the Jew Banker Conspiracy theory fare here?

It does not work for me.  Jews are for the most part normal people who are as good or bad as anyone else.  Which of course means they can be totally and absolutely fucked up.  But that is a tangential issue having to do with being human.

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