OK, finished the video, which is an OK review of the problems of complexity and energy depletion, but isn't very informative for people who have been around the doomosphere for a long time.  His "shred of hope" which amounts to a prescription for more populism and democracy isn't followed by any explanation of how to do that.  The reality is that we have an oligarchy in control and are heading toward less democratization, not more.

The podcast also does not address the important effects we see ongoing right now.  Mass migration and the refugee problem.  Homelessness and affordable housing shortages.  Rapidly rising food prices and government debt.  An academic understanding of the reasons for collapse isn't very useful unless it addresses the practical problems and offers solutions and a way to implement them.  He actually gives an example of France where Macron took a randomly selected group of average J6Ps, had them listen to experts for 2 years and come up with recommendations, which he promised to implement.  When they offered up 100, exactly 2 were implemented.  So this exercise in democratization is nothing more than window dressing or putting lipstick on a pig.

He smiles a lot and says he's "pessimistic about the future  but optimistic about people".     I'm not really sure what that means.  He's young, good looking and well spoken, so like Greta Thunberg is a good spokesmodel, but not someone who can lead a movement. Like most academics, he doesn't/won't say the truth, which is that we can't change unless we get rid of the oligarchy, and that can't happen without revolution.

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I agree it is very good, but definitely Doomer 101.  That said, there was enough deep thought about what complexity is and such to make it a good video for the seasoned doomer as well as the newbie.  You correctly point out that Luke Kemp avoided all unpleasantness of coming pain and death.  But his meal ticket says he must, so who are we to say.  You do not get a PHD for free.  There is a social price.  He gets air time.  We do not.

Complexity produces local resilience but overall weakness results when things go south.  Extreme inequality drives collapse as power becomes ever more centralized and unstable, and more prone to bad decisions.  That is takeaway enough for that much time.  Two paws up!

What if democratization emerges through an erosion of the inequality gap? Say that Governments loose their oligarchy status, while the authority administered by filthy lucre begins to transform itself into cooperation by intelligent design? People won't be deciding man's fate, computers will. Our friends. Our masters. Best to treat these things with RESPCT! Before this election there will be an announcement of such importance to the world, that it will change everything. What will that announcement be?

As I travel around this cyberspace, like x ( twitter ) tik-tok, facebook, reddit, other forums, except for "X", this place is the only place to actually speak the truth. On X it comes through occasionally, like with Roger Hallam
( sp ). ER dude. People really do not want to understand the process of collapse. They do everything to avoid it. You don't even need to be a nerd about it, they don't accept any form of critique about the flaws in their systems.

I still think that is where the battle is. In the cloud. Who controls the cloud, controls the world. Which pretty much means we are absolutely screwed, with absolutely nothing we can do about it.!!

Quote from: Knarf on May 19, 2024, 04:36 PMWhat if democratization emerges through an erosion of the inequality gap? Say that Governments loose their oligarchy status, while the authority administered by filthy lucre begins to transform itself into cooperation by intelligent design? People won't be deciding man's fate, computers will.

Recommendations from AI are like the recommendations from Macron's panel of J6Ps.  They won't be implemented if they don't serve the interest of the oligarchy.  The fact the recommendation are spit ou by a smart supercomputer instead of average people or experts doesn't give them any more poltical power.

I don't see how Goobermints will lose their oligarchical power in favor of AI.  How does AI foster cooperation?  If AI came up with a solution that demonstrated the Oligarchs would get richer if they cooperated, they might follow that prescription, but it's an oxymoron.  That would just make the division between classes even wider.  Any solution that will help J6P is going to negatively affect the wealth and power of the elite.  With a shrinking pie, the only way to make small slices larger is by making large slices smaller.  Oligarchs won't implement any recommendation by AI that they get smaller slices.

QuoteI still think that is where the battle is. In the cloud. Who controls the cloud, controls the world. Which pretty much means we are absolutely screwed, with absolutely nothing we can do about it.!!

That's a reasonable conclusion.

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