Violence has no place in Politics?  Violence IS Politics.  Wars, Armies, Police, Revolutions, Riots, Assassinations, Torture, Terrorism, Prisons, Deportations, Embargoes, Sanctions...every nation-state in the world does or uses some or all of these techniques to further their political goals and agendas.  Often the actions are covert and the general population never evn know about them, much less has the ability to consent to their use. What they really mean is that the State has a monopoly on the use of violence and the individual or group opposed to the State can't retaliate in kind.

As those of us who observe the way the world REALLY works know, the violence is often the ECONOMIC kind, be it sanctions that prevent a country from purchasing energy to insurance companies that refuse to pay for life saving medicines or procedures, resulting in deaths measured in the hundreds or thousands.  As Gen. Smedley Butler wrote, his real job in the military was as an enforcer for Wall Street.



The Economic Hitmen of the IMF enslave entire countries making loans, fomenting revolutions and coup d'etats and piecemeal selling off a nation's wealth in privatization of the commons.  It's systematic large scale violence perpetrated every day in the global political landscape.

Individuals who retaliate in kind are hunted down and vilified, despite the fact their crimes are orders of magnitude less violent than the actions of the state and the corporatocracy that controls it.  Only when people grasp that they are being violently abused and defend themselves against it will they be able to break this monopoly on violence.

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There is a saying:

War is a mere continuation of policy by other means. - Carl von Clausewitz, Prussian general and military theorist

Dude called this out in the 18th century...

The Terrorism Report


Considering Luigi is charged with terrorism, I want this guy charged too.  I am more afraid of this guy than I ever was of Luigi, and I speak for all of Seattle since this shooter is still at large.

This doesn't look like terrorism, it looks like a hit.  WTF is walking alone at 3AM in this neighborhood, and how does the shooter know he's going to show up?  I would bet this is drug related.

Also, since the victim is not a CEO, I doubt they will mobilize the entire FBI to find the shooter.

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QuoteThis doesn't look like terrorism, it looks like a hit.  WTF is walking alone at 3AM in this neighborhood, and how does the shooter know he's going to show up?  I would bet this is drug related.

Exactly right, so do you think this guy and the shooter the Luigi is alleged to be are the same guy?

There is a lot in common.

Capital hill at this location is essentially downtown.  It was near where the CHOP was.

Luigi is under arrest so it's not him.  I don't see much in common between these shootings.

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Just a city street under cameras where one guy waits for another, shoots him, and then runs away.  All of it videotaped by surveillance.  Nothing in common at all?  It seems to me, based on the video, that they have everything in common.  And my point is there is so much in common that it should be the same charge.

That is why this guy should be charged with terrorism.

Or do we need to know the occupation of the dead guy first before it becomes terrorism?

Quote from: RE on Dec 31, 2024, 08:12 PMLuigi is under arrest so it's not him.  I don't see much in common between these shootings.

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Not Luigi because he is in New York.  But it could still be the shooter.  Nothing is proved yet.

The rationale is in the motive for the shooting.  The Terrorism charge is being brought because he was targeted for his position as CEO of an insurance company.  We don't know exactly why this other guy was targeted, but it probably wasn't that.  Probably owed money for drugs, or maybe he was fucking the shooter's wife.  Anyhow, Luigi's shooting makes a political statement.  Thus the Terrorism charge.

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Quote from: RE on Jan 01, 2025, 10:08 AMThe rationale is in the motive for the shooting.  The Terrorism charge is being brought because he was targeted for his position as CEO of an insurance company.  We don't know exactly why this other guy was targeted, but it probably wasn't that.  Probably owed money for drugs, or maybe he was fucking the shooter's wife.  Anyhow, Luigi's shooting makes a political statement.  Thus the Terrorism charge.

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I dispute that.  If there is a political statement being made it is being made by the state, and all the other players in this drama.  Of which we are a small part.  Not by the NY suspect who is in the klink, and working with his lawyers I'll guess full time. 

All we really have in both cases is video of a shooter, and a man dying on a city street.  That is all we know in both cases.  Everything else we know is coming from the FSOA and news coverage.  Good bad, and everything in-between.  Everyone else is filling in the blanks.  I go back to the fact that the fossil record shows nearly identical crimes. From my philosophical materialistic point of view, that is all that matters.

Interpretation like the conjuring of the terrorism charge is all in ones head.  In both cases dead is dead and really nothing else.  That is what the universe sees.  The universe saw bullets move.  Everything else is a story. 

The terrorism charge is a pre-crime charge.  The actual charge is murder.

And this guy could just be a crazy and not a terrorist.  It depends on if he acted alone.

Supposedly they also have a manifesto.

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Quote from: RE on Jan 01, 2025, 02:53 PMSupposedly they also have a manifesto.

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Considering the conflicting reports coming in concerning New Orleans and Las Vegas, anything is possible.

Las Vegas, Hmmmmmmmm what are the odds of a false flag like the Boston Bombing being put in place to distract from a multitude of other things.

Activate some Manchurian crazies.  People on the edge.  Get their phones to working on their nervous asses.  Turn a few knobs.  Tell a few lies.  Tweak the algorithm.  Provide some facilitation.

And I am not crazy.  You say it can't happen here.  I used to believe that too.  It happens.

The natives are restless.  It would keep people in line.  Gaza is a hellhole and Americans need to be distracted.  Consider.

The American system of unearned riches is at great threat.



Extreme actions are in the works.






Terrorism is everywhere.

Maybe random shootings of CEOs is going viral.

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Quote from: K-Dog on Dec 12, 2024, 09:13 AMThere is no proof Leonard was the shooter that day.

At least Uncle Joe is letting Leonard go back to the reservation to die after 50 years in the federal pen.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/jan/20/biden-commutation-leonard-peltier

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