And CNN's KFile on Tuesday reported new details about Trump's relationship with Epstein, including photos taken at the future president's 1993 wedding to Marla Maples. The pictures pre-date any of Epstein's known legal issues, and the White House described them as out-of-context frame grabs of videos and pictures to "disgustingly infer something nefarious."

When do they leak the pics & vids?  What nefarious deeds will be disgustingly inferred?

But after blasting supporters who worry about the Epstein case as "weaklings," and now going after Obama in his latest attempt at moving the goalposts, it's Trump who is now making it impossible not to ask the question: Why is he so desperate for this to go away?

Why?  That man, the Honorable Donald J. Trump should go right to fucking Jail!  Because the sonofabitch is GUILTY! 

https://www.cnn.com/2025/07/23/politics/trump-epstein-maxwell-justice-department-analysis

Trump's latest bid to end Epstein storm: Weaponizing the federal government

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QuoteTrump once hosted party for 'young women' where Epstein was the only guest.

If you missed the implication I'll explain.


The Trump family's involvement in businesses intertwined with prostitution and the commodification of women spans three generations, beginning with Donald Trump's grandfather, Friedrich Trump, and continuing through his father, Fred Trump, and Donald Trump himself with his modeling agencies and beauty pageants. Here's a detailed summary:

Friedrich Trump, Donald Trump's grandfather, built the family's initial fortune during the Klondike Gold Rush by operating hotels and restaurants that doubled as brothels in Canada's Yukon territory.  Newspaper ads hinted at private suites for "ladies," and scales were provided to weigh gold dust as payment for services. A Yukon Sun article warned "respectable women" to avoid the hotel due to the "depraved" activities.

Fred, Donals's father avoided overt ties to vice, though his business practices were later scrutinized for racial discrimination and shady dealings.

Donald Trump's businesses revived the commodification of women through modeling agencies, beauty pageants, and associations with Jeffrey Epstein.

Trump Model Management: Accused of exploitative practices, including withholding pay and pressuring models into sexualized work.  Miss Universe & Miss USA: Trump owned these pageants from 1996–2015, which were criticized for objectifying women. Multiple contestants reported harassment, including Trump entering dressing rooms unannounced.

So

QuoteTrump once hosted party for 'young women' where Epstein was the only guest.

Demonstrates that Trump was more than a customer.  Beyond doubt.  Trump dabbled in Epstein's bizness.

QuoteTrump once hosted party for 'young women' where Epstein was the only guest.

QuoteDemonstrates that Trump was more than a customer.  Beyond doubt.  Trump dabbled in Epstein's bizness.

Well, here's the thing.  If you suspect child abuse, all states have mandatory reporting requirements for teachers, health care workers, social workers and cops.  A few states require anyone to report.  Even if there isn't a legal obligation, there's a moral obligation.  The problem of course is that just an accusation is enough to destroy a person's life, even if it's untrue.  So you need to be pretty damn sure before you accuse someone.

In Epstein's case though, everybody who knew him and hung out with him knew he was a "creep", obviously including The Donald.  Why ELSE would he hold a party for underage girls and specifically invite Epstein?  This is the crime of pandering which Ghislaine Maxwell was convicted of, and Trump was doing the same thing by holding the party.  So whether or not he dipped his wick in any of those girls, if Epstein did then he's guilty of pandering.

Trump will of course claim ignorance of Epstein's proclivities, but is it plausible that he was ignorant and held parties for the girls?  How old were they?  Publicly with Epstein far as I am aware we've only heard about 17 year olds, which people are less revolted by than 15 year olds, less still than 12 year olds.  What was the age range at this party?

At the very least, his failure to report what he must have known was ocurring is morally reprehensible.  It's pretty clear though that not only did he fail to report, he was making these girls available to Epstein.  That's pandering.

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Guilty in a way hard to prove.

Trump involved himself with modeling agencies and beauty pageants.  He put a shield over his dirty activities.  Most people consider beauty pageants benign and modeling agencies can be legitimate business.

Trump shielded himself the same way the men in black use Facebook or Google to surveil us.  One step removed with another commercial step to hide the eventual transfer of data to homeland security severs is likely.  The fantasy of freedom is preserved.

The Trump way of doing things is to pretend to be something other that what Trump is.  Trump pretends to be nice.  Not so much now in his old age, and more and more he just acts like the hateful fuck that he is without any nice guy theater to hide his lies and manipulations.  But historically Trump waits for the right moment and strikes like a snake.  Most of the time it resembles a normal human.  Under the hood it is something else.

His strategy has worked for a very long time.

Quote from: K-Dog on Jul 25, 2025, 06:15 AMGuilty in a way hard to prove.

Trump involved himself with modeling agencies and beauty pageants.  He put a shield over his dirty activities.  Most people consider beauty pageants benign and modeling agencies can be legitimate business.

The Miss Universe pageant is for adult women.  Far as I know he didn't run the kiddie pageants.  Modeling agencies of course handle many aspiring models of all ages, but that doesn't explain why you would have a party with a someone who everyone knew was a cradle robber and invite the kids.  Was alcohol served at the party?

Of course he's innocent until proven guilty, but you would have to be pretty naive to think it was all innocent.  Credibility is very questionable, particularly from a serial liar.

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Miss Teen USA (1997) - Contestants were as young as 15, with some recalling Trump entering their dressing room while they were changing. Mariah Billado (Miss Vermont Teen USA 1997) and others described scrambling to cover themselves when Trump walked in unannounced.  Teen pageants included girls as young as 14–15.  Modeling events he sponsored or judged also involved teens, with allegations of exploitative environments.

Well in that case under the current climate, that just makes him look more guilty.  If the CONgress continues to stall on hearings and a Special Prosecutor isn't appoointed, the Repugnants will lose the midterm elections.  Eventually, they'll get him on obstruction of justice.

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Eventually --- but he could croak first.

Quote from: K-Dog on Jul 25, 2025, 10:13 PMEventually --- but he could croak first.

Certainly a distinct possibility.  His Trumpness isn't the only power broker at risk of being exposed by an inquiry, at least 100 others appear in the files.  At a certain point in the cover up, any of them might try to eliminate potential witnesses.  Private Jets could start disappearing off the radar.

This story is a long way from being over.  A Collapse Gift that keeps on giving.  Order popcorrn by the truckload.



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I was wondering when the army of Kiddie Prostitutes would kick in their contribution to the Epstein-Trump coverup.  One has to realize that all these girls parents were paid off either before the liaisons or afterward, so parents are guilty of pimping them.  The girls generally don't want their parents going to prison, thus everyone wants it to remain hush-hush with only the perp going to jail.  The only way the prosecutors get the  girls and parents to testify is with guarantees of immunity from prosecution and anonymity.

However, there's still money to be made from the Tabloids and Book Deals as long as this persists as a media circus, which means there a reporters out there looking for names and ways to getsome of these folks to fess up and tell their stories from behind a screen with voices modified to sound like Darth Vader.  Verifying the stories is the hard part of course and the risk of publishing a bullshit testimony is a Billion Dollar lawsuit.

So, right now they're tiptoeing around the legal system to make sure the girl's identities are kept secret, but at the same time trying to find some way to cash in, along with trying to out a few more of the perps including you-know-who.  Somewhere along the line, the story will spring a leak.  Tedious though.

https://www.politico.com/news/2025/08/07/jeffrey-esptein-ghislaine-maxwell-victims-grand-jury-testimony-00498772?dicbo=v2-6NydiTj&obInternalId=71118&obnews=1

Epstein victims speak out: This 'smacks of a cover up'

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If successful, this would be Epstein's greatest achievement.  A small measure of redemption in death for his lifetime of sins.

Emails with his Billionaire Buddies so far have been very entertaining  Apparently Trumpolini is widely regarded as an idiot by his financial peers.

The Justice Dept will supposedly run an investigation now.  This will be an entertaining joke as well.  Trumpsky willl probably try to target some of the other rich Epstein Buddies to deflect attention.  Perhaps we'll get a Mass Billionaire Pedophile Massacre in the Tabloids.

https://www.cnn.com/2025/11/14/politics/epstein-emails-trump-kfile

'I am the one able to take him down': New Epstein emails detail his soured view of former close friend Donald Trump

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Unsurprisingly, they are bungling the release of the Epstein files badly.  The coverup is going to end up the smoking gun that heads up the articles of impeachment.

Trumpolini needs to get WWIII started soon or he's going to be toast after the elections.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/dec/20/trump-justice-department-legal-threats-epstein-files-release

Outrage and legal threats: Trump justice department slammed after limited Epstein files release

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QuoteTrumpolini needs to get WWIII started soon or he's going to be toast after the elections.

He is working on it.  A second childhood, playing with toy soldiers.

Time to invade Greenland!

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/jan/06/epstein-files-release-justice-department

US justice department has released less than 1% of Epstein files, filing reveals

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