QuoteAuthorities said they recovered a high-powered, bolt-action rifle in a nearby wooded area. Ammunition inside the rifle was engraved with messages of transgender and antifascist ideology, the Wall Street Journal reported, citing a law enforcement bulletin and a source familiar with the investigation. The FBI declined to comment to Source: The Independent.

Left Wing evidence found in DE WOODS.

By a bought and paid for FBI.

Did you know that sometimes they kill their own.  It happens.  And I am very happy I was nowhere near Idaho yesterday.  Some poor sap is going to take the fall.

This is an obvious false flag.

Quote from: K-Dog on Sep 11, 2025, 10:15 AMThis is an obvious false flag.

What was? The shooting in Evergeen Colorado, or the one in Utah? The Ukranian refugee on the train a week or two ago? Charlie's shooting seems to be getting all the attention, as opposed to just another mass shooting in a school involving children. In a state that specializes in the murder of them. Or theater goers.

I mean, how does one know which of the various murderings, kidnappings, school shootings, car accidents, accidental firearm discharges, car crashes and Covid shot reactions are allowed to be conspiratorial? Versus just the usual "shit happens" as institutionalized by Forest Gump?

By "are allowed" I mean the ones that reach to the level of posting Nazi uniform pictures and whatnot. I presume Nazi images add significance to the claim in some way to some people. As opposed to causing Jews to react in horror and never want to come back to the forum anyway.

A perfect shot at 200 yards in a twenty mile an hour crosswind.

Just what an average tranny can squeeze off I suppose.  Are they good at squeezing things off?

After transitioning I guess the boy scout training still remains.  A reasonable assumption.

Nothing conspiratorial about it.




* A trained sniper would consider a 200-meter shot in a 20 mph crosswind challenging, but doable.  It would be hard for an untrained person, but since we can't have a conspiracy about this, we will have to consider the average ANTIFA soldier to be very good with firearms.  Navy Seal quality.  And if we do not, then nothing about this makes sense.

Quote* As opposed to causing Jews to react in horror and never want to come back to the forum anyway.

There are some Jews who consider Trump to be a NAZI and would not be offended with my comparison at all. 

My intention is to point out the possibility of this being an 'inside job' is not far-fetched.  It has happened before, many times in fact.  I am also motivated to counter the pervasive claim that the shooter is 'left wing'.  At this time there is no evidence showing who the shooter is.  Only circumstances which suggest the Charlie Kirk shooting has a professional and conspiratorial air about it.

And. Not all Jews are Zionists.  And not all Zionists are Jews.  Some Zionists are paid to be Zionists.  Especially American politicians.  It is important to distinguish between Judaism and Zionism.  Judaism is a religion and a cultural identity.  Zionism is a political ideology that supports the right of the Jewish people to steal their ancestral homeland from the current occupants.

Quote from: K-Dog on Sep 11, 2025, 07:49 PMA perfect shot at 200 yards in a twenty mile an hour crosswind.

It wasn't a perfect shot. You don't aim for the neck when hunting, it is head or heart.

Quote from: K-DogJust what an average tranny can squeeze off I suppose.  Are they good at squeezing things off?

I didn't realize that the authorities had identified the sexual orientation of the shooter already?

Quote from: K-Dog* A trained sniper would consider a 200-meter shot in a 20 mph crosswind challenging, but doable.  It would be hard for an untrained person, but since we can't have a conspiracy about this, we will have to consider the average ANTIFA soldier to be very good with firearms.  Navy Seal quality.  And if we do not, then nothing about this makes sense.

Which is why it wasn't a perfect shot. And as with most conspiracies, including those assuming that because of camera densities obviously all crime must be captured on them, suppositions are required to make them work.

Quote from: K-DogMy intention is to point out the possibility of this being an 'inside job' is not far-fetched.

Once we begin to talk possibiities, that is entirely different than discussing certainties. As far as an inside job, are we talking MAGA deciding to get rid of him or some other shadowy cabal of super secret folks because lets face it, they are FAR cooler when hypothesizing these things than just run of the mill irritated folks taking out their anger on someone, or just looking for attention. Like the school shooting the same day in Colorado that there don't appear to be any ventured conspiracies about. School shooting being too normal nowadays perhaps?

Quote from: K-DogAnd. Not all Jews are Zionists.  And not all Zionists are Jews.  Some Zionists are paid to be Zionists.  Especially American politicians.  It is important to distinguish between Judaism and Zionism.  Judaism is a religion and a cultural identity.  Zionism is a political ideology that supports the right of the Jewish people to steal their ancestral homeland from the current occupants.

I am aware of this. Interestingly, I believe I learned it here when someone, might have been you or RE even, was making the distinction and I didn't understand what the difference was. So I went and looked it up.

Not sure where religious or nationalist orientation comes in though, was the guy a Jew? Or Zionist? Or just some provocateur for MAGA? I watched some of his go-rounds when he did the arguing with people thing, and it seemed pretty Christianity oriented, fast talking, very little of the hard logic I am familiar with but the usual wishy-washy political/religious philosophizing type stuff. With a heavy bent on talking louder than the other person. Sort of like internet argument stuff rather than a debate.

QuoteIt wasn't a perfect shot. You don't aim for the neck when hunting, it is head or heart.

So far we do not have any certainties.

QuoteI didn't realize that the authorities had identified the sexual orientation of the shooter already?

So go ahead and realize it.  Trump blames the 'radical left' for Charlie Kirk's killing, and Trump owns the FBI.

Republicans have been smearing trans people as violent for years. Now DOJ wants to ban them from owning guns.

The conservative frenzy over Minneapolis shooter Robin Westman is the culmination of a years-long effort to vilify transgender people as mass killers.

Quote from: K-Dog on Sep 12, 2025, 04:34 AM

QuoteIt wasn't a perfect shot. You don't aim for the neck when hunting, it is head or heart.

So far we do not have any certainties.

A bit of a blanket statement but I'll go with it. I completely agree. And those who specialize in quantifying the uncertainty in...well...just about everything, I will often not qualify what I say with my first impression of uncertainty.

I only know that folks expressing absolute certainty, outside of maybe theoretical physics (and not always then) are rarely correct. As absolute certainty is a high bar, particularly when it comes to the "why" of a thing.

So sure...the shooter might have had a fascination with Charlie's speaking ability, and decided that shooting him in the throat area made some kind of sense, "shutting him up" being the goal. But if the goal is to kill someone, it isn't your target. As the helpful SEAL guy on TV this morning mentioned, and was my initial hunch as well, he missed bigly. I had already mentioned my agreement with that opinion here before he came along and backed me up later. The wife is watching this in real time, she is fascinated by it.

Quote from: K-Dog

QuoteI didn't realize that the authorities had identified the sexual orientation of the shooter already?

So go ahead and realize it.  Trump blames the 'radical left' for Charlie Kirk's killing, and Trump owns the FBI.

Why? Because an uninformed person wants to pretend it is so? That's as bad as conspiracy folks who just jump to their favorite conclusion and let it go at that, no thinking required.

So no, until some more evidence comes out I will no more assume that AssHatInCharge knows much about anything other than who/what he WANTS to blame, as opposed to what actually was to blame. Two different things.

Quote from: K-DogThe conservative frenzy over Minneapolis shooter Robin Westman is the culmination of a years-long effort to vilify transgender people as mass killers.

I don't disagree that stupid people say stupid shit sometimes because they are... stupid. And other times because they want to turn it to their own ends to make their own points. I only note that one white guy seems to be quite a bit more attention than yet another school shooting. American priorities.....pretty screwed up regardless of political bent.