Clearly you didn't follow my blog very closely, evidenced by the fact also you didn't even know who Steve was or what he wrote about.  I discussed war as an outcome and as a vector, civil war vs international war, conventional vs nuclear, proxy wars vs direct conflict, asymmetric warfare etc.  War comes in many flavors, religious, economic, resource...hell even love and family disputes can cause wars.  The really BIG wars however always center around empire building or empire destruction.  WWII encompassed the restructuring of the Anglo-Aerican empire and the destruction of the 3rd Reich and empire of Japan.  WWI was the end of the British colonial empire, Austro-Hungarian empire and Ottoman empire.

The last civilization ending warfare came with the collapse of the Roman Empire and lasted 100s of years.  I doubt it will take so long this time around.  It also was possible to rebuild and supercede that civilization latr since earth was still loaded with a vast untapped energy resource.  Far less likely after this collapse finishes that anything on the scale of global industrial civilization will ever succeed it.

All you have ever wanted to discuss here are Peak Oil topics, you don't even bother to participate in many others.  I even recall making a special rule for you that you had to contribute on at least 3 other topics before you could post again about oil.  So it's not surprising you manage to miss the other conversations.  Your tunnel vision is so laser focused it doesn't leave room for anything besides your area of expertiese.  I've never looked at collapse that way.  The energy problem underpins it, but the tentacles and manifestations are many.  War is one of the most important of them.

RE

The dunes are changed by the wind, but the desert never changes.



It seems to  go on without end for the end is not seen.  Most travelers die crossing the vast wasteland never seeing the edge.  Never knowing.  But given time like an ant falling off a table edge the physics of depletion will remind man where in the universe mankind actually resides.  Mother nature will help with the lesson.

UNICORNRIOT.NINJA • 2026-01-11

Large Noise Demo Against ICE Crashed by Police Who Arrest 30

Over a thousand protesters visited two hotels in downtown Minneapolis on Friday night, equipped with loud noise makers, in an attempt to disrupt the sleep of any ICE officers who may be staying in the hotels.

The full version is on YT.  Link below.  I clipped it for the version we host here. 


Are You a Crappy Person?






The Johnathan Ross crew is in both clips.  The second is from today.


This clip shows the same crew that Johnathan Ross was a member of. 

I believe Ross was transferred.










More Trump trouble.  Another part of town.

I caught this as it was published on YT and snagged it.  It was live so I had to wait for it to finish so I 'chatted' with MAGA idiots in the YT chat.  Some were bots, but the one who said 'Fuck off Keith' must have been real.  Nice.

They were taking the point of view that the protesters are lazy unemployed loosers.  I was taking the point of view that the ICE agents do not have a real job because causing people misery is not a real job.  Yes they have money.  But does being paid define a job?  The protesters are serving the community and clearly working.  That they work without pay shows that just getting money can't define a job because you can work for free.

Q.E.D.    - The lazy fucks are actually the ICE agents.







Here is some sense talking.

Not bad for spontaneous pop ups. There should be protests every weekend until he resigns.  A National Strike wouldn't hurt either.

https://www.nydailynews.com/2026/01/11/thousands-turn-out-for-spontaneous-no-kings-protest-in-midtown-manhattan/

Thousands turn out for spontaneous 'No Kings' protest in Midtown Manhattan

Quote from: RE on Jan 11, 2026, 11:59 AMClearly you didn't follow my blog very closely, evidenced by the fact also you didn't even know who Steve was or what he wrote about.

You place a high value on whatever Steve said or wrote.....me not being aware of him means he wasn't even a blip on my radar. That usually meant, back then, that he didn't have much in the way of credibility at all. Or lacked any technical angle....drawing a straight line on data that doesn't lend itself to such analysis being a dead giveaway.

Quote from: REAll you have ever wanted to discuss here are Peak Oil topics, you don't even bother to participate in many others.

Not quite accurate. I PARTICIPATED on the peak oil side, said participation being based in original professional interest, and continuing to this day. I WATCHED the others when it became obvious peak oil wasn't really about peak oil. It was just this group of people shotgunning their hopes and dreams of collapse into every idea, good or bad, ridiculous or not. You have Planet X fans on your very site! Yellowstone was going to explode! We know it to be true! Here is a website proving it! Peak oil was just one of topics with website enthusiasts. The topic had more history, less looney tunes, and could be configured within a pseudo science backdrop. And had a logical hook.....no oil.....OMG LOOK AT ALL THE THINGS THAT GO AWAY!!! Which is a good hook.

Quote from: REYour tunnel vision is so laser focused it doesn't leave room for anything besides your area of expertiese.  I've never looked at collapse that way.  The energy problem underpins it, but the tentacles and manifestations are many.  War is one of the most important of them.

RE

I stand by my original comment on war. I don't object to it being important. Just being insufficient when applied to a species that has been doing it since time immemorial. And while it has been a part of some collapse here or there, it is incidental to, not a requirement of. 

Quote from: TDoS on Jan 12, 2026, 05:17 PMYou place a high value on whatever Steve said or wrote.....me not being aware of him means he wasn't even a blip on my radar. That usually meant, back then, that he didn't have much in the way of credibility at all.

So WTF am I a blip on the radar?    I don't have  anything in the way of credibility either. lol.

RE

Quote from: RE on Jan 12, 2026, 06:16 PM

Quote from: TDoS on Jan 12, 2026, 05:17 PMYou place a high value on whatever Steve said or wrote.....me not being aware of him means he wasn't even a blip on my radar. That usually meant, back then, that he didn't have much in the way of credibility at all.

So WTF am I a blip on the radar?    I don't have  anything in the way of credibility either. lol.
RE

You are a data point, marching through time with a slowly evolving perspective. This perspective, your behaviors, emphasis and arguments changing along with the web locations where you have spent your time. Even your style has changed, from the peakoil.com days through reddit and your various website adventures. The SUN days. Some of those changes can probably be credited to your physical changes over time, which aren't a surprise. Hell, some of my changes are directly related to aging as well, like what I would do with the grandparents place. I used to think "hey...if doom happens regardless of why, a natural gas powered house on 100 acres of bottomland and woodlands with its own gas wells isn't a bad place to be". More of a mental exercise, I don't have any desire to return to my roots as it were. My wife and children would revolt, for starters. "Venison?!?!?!? Three nights this week.....screw that...where is the nearest McDonalds!". "Sorry honey, they all ran out of ice and then later were overrun by the MZBs and shut down."

Quote from: TDoS on Jan 12, 2026, 07:08 PMYou are a data point, marching through time with a slowly evolving perspective.

You didn't answer the question.  I asked why the data point appears  on the radar, not why it exist.  Steve is a data point also.  Since neither of us has credibility, WTF am I on this radar, and HTF do I get off it?

RE

You need to stop obstructing us, that is why that lesbian bitch is dead.

Its a big country, this should have been seen sooner.

HERELOSANGELES.COM • 2026-01-09

Los Angeles Community Seeks Justice After Off-Duty ICE Agent Shoots and Kills Keith Porter Jr. on New Year's Eve

The community of Northridge, Los Angeles, is calling for justice following the fatal shooting of Keith Porter Jr. by an off-duty ICE agent on New Year's Eve. The agent claims to have acted in self-defense after encountering Porter, who was allegedly armed. However, Porter's family contests this account, insisting he was celebrating the New Year.

BLACKAMERICAWEB.COM • 2026-01-12

An Off-Duty ICE Agent Killed A Black Man In Los Angeles. We Need To Talk About It

Keith Porter Jr. was killed by an off-duty ICE agent on New Year's Eve at his apartment complex in the Los Angeles area.

Fascist body snatching in Minneapolis. 



Season 1 episode 3.



The Janissary Corps, once the elite slave-soldiers of the Sultan, now operated under a new, chillingly efficient directorate: the Office of Imperial Continuity and Enforcement, or I.C.E.

Its banner, a crescent moon encircling the image of their ICE Barbie wearing her cowboy hat.  Denied hotel space these banners, flew over fortified tents in vacant lots scattered along the re-conquered Mississippi River.

The processing of protesters was swift. The able-bodied were loaded onto a waiting, windowless, armored wagon. They would be taken to a regional Assessment & Holding Facility, where they'd be held in chain-link pens under floodlights, awaiting transportation.  Sweet-sixteen girls to the Florida harem.  Those unable to fund a legal defense to newly established agricultural work battalions.

Problem cases shipped to Khanates unknown.  The sexually confused given bus tickets to a west coast city of their choice.

There was a badge. There was a process. There was a form for everything.  No one called it fascism. They called it enforcement.

It was lawful. It was funded. It was renewed by Congress.

Quote from: RE on Jan 12, 2026, 08:17 PM

Quote from: TDoS on Jan 12, 2026, 07:08 PMYou are a data point, marching through time with a slowly evolving perspective.

You didn't answer the question.  I asked why the data point appears  on the radar, not why it exist.

In your case? Durability. Most tucked tail and ran when the dooms oft cited turned out to be duds.

Quote from: RESteve is a data point also.

Could be. But I didn't track him from early times. So I don't have his chronology. Plus, unless he has better than the single graph you demonstrated, he wouldn't be of interest anyway. 

Quote from: RESince neither of us has credibility, WTF am I on this radar, and HTF do I get off it?
RE

It isn't about credibility so much, yours or anyone elses. All the early peakers (not you so much, you didn't ever lock down to hard on a date, it was more of a general thing to you it seemed like) screwed the pooch, some just more amusingly than others. Certainly there were credibility issues, Colin Campbell lacked it, as did all the technical minded folks I can think of. While peak oil took quite some time to solve, that was because it required some decent $$ and a combination of experience across three different specialties. And then....you science the shit out of it. The decent $$$ ran into the 7 figures. That is certainly part of the bugaboo of the entire thing. 

As far as getting off the radar, that is easy. Die, or stop posting as yourself where your current ideas and continuing affiliation with doom topics can be compared to your past.

You are in good company though. David Hughes is still floating around, some folks from peakoil.com migrated to peakoilbarrel, some even wrote books thinking they had solved it mathematically. A PhD in EE as a matter of fact. He is full of shit, but great fun to poke and argue with. Some TOD folks, and of course Art "there is no oil in US shales" Berman is now doing philosophical commentary that is AI written, I'd be willing to bet dollars to donuts on. Nate seems to have moved on, but still hosts some of the old suckers on his show.

Ron Patterson, Gail tends to play in just "energy" now...using the same arguments and similar graphs that she did at TOD, but with no better logic regardless. Just argument, from someone who's global peak oil is approaching a 20 year oopsy. Whipple died. Heinberg is reinventing the wheel as best he can and morphed into more eco...although recently I caught a whiff of him trying to recycle his nonsense again, trying to explain why he had been wrong....by now admitting what was obvious to those of us who didn't fall for it knew back then. Couldn't tell him that in the moment though, him being a good violin player pretending to be a geoscience polymath of some sort.

And there are others, but most have dried up and blown away.

Steve had a lot more than Triangle of Doom.  You missed quite a bit of good stuff.

Far as changing ideas, when I began I wasn't interested in Peak Oil and energy at all.  Just curiouss about the reasons behind the collapse of Bear Stearns and Lehman Bros.  I ran across a paper by Antal Fekete that led toexploring the debt which led to energy costs which led to resource depletion.  I spent more time on economics blogs than Peak Oil at the beginning, but PO was livelier back then.  Lookking at long term effects, at first I was in the Amish preindustrial cam, eventually moving to the stonee age camp.   Never bought into NTHE and Guy McDoomster theories.

As you collect more data and do more research, over 20 years your thinking has to evolve,otherwise you haven't learned anything.

Anyhow, I'm not going to die too soon, I just don't get why I deserve so much attention.  Why waste the time?  I have no credibility.  Seems silly.

RE