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Ad I am sure Diners are aware although typical J6P is not, projections of this sort made by UN statisticians and demographers are loaded with assumptions that BAU will continue over the next 25 & 75 years.  They assume current rates of decline will continue along in a smooth curve that can be modeled as a mathematical function.  they don't account for "black swan" events like Global Thermonuclear War, global famine or a global pandemic that actually kills a significant number of the people it infects, unlike COVID or flu pandemics with relatively low mortality rates.

They also assume that we'll continue to supply enough energy to the population to maintain these rates through the entire timespan, which is unlikely.  All of which makes any projection that goes more than 10 years ahead is practically worthless.  Maybe the 2050 projections will be in the ballpark without a black swan landing in the next 25 years, but the likelihood we make it to 2100 under 2024 BAU conditions is vanishingly small.

Still, the charts are nice to look at as a "best case" scenario.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-13309391/Mesmerising-charts-worlds-populated-countries-time-Britain-slipped-rankings-20.html

Mesmerising charts show world's most and least populated countries over time - and how Britain has slipped down the rankings and out of the top 20

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This from MSN:

Immigration advocates see work permits as Biden's best option

President Biden's left flank is pushing for expanded work permits for immigrants living in the country illegally, not just as a humanitarian imperative, but as a political boon ahead of November.

A second class citizen is a humanitarian imperative?  According to Microsoft it is.  And Microsoft should know.  They import thousands of workers and displace Americans in the process.

I should know.  I was in their system.  I worked next to the techies Microsoft flew in.  We had the same kind of badge.  Microsoft has been doing this for decades.  They have imperialism down.  Microsoft has game.

From the article, not much to it.  The article could be in the Idiocracy movie.

Recent polling shows that two-thirds of voters in swing states support expanding work permits for undocumented immigrants, including long-term workers, farmworkers, Dreamers without DACA and spouses of U.S. citizens,

Did you see the hat trick.  I put it in bold.  What is the truth.  I need my decoder ring.  If I don't decode this, I might want to sign on and go with the flow.  Would I be peaceful and smile?

A minority of Americans are not in favor of second class citizen workers, but if we can include that group in a larger group of long-term workers, farmworkers, Dreamers without DACA and spouses of U.S. citizens which we mostly agree on should be citizens then we can spin our * liberal propaganda the way we wish.

I work with a DACA kid.  He has been here since he was four years old.  His sister married an American and finally got permanent residency after being married for 8 years.  My friend is from Indiana, not Mexico.  The parents still work in a factory somewhere in the Midwest.  They should all be American citizens.

Microsoft drew the circle large enough to get the result they want.  A circle drawn so large that 'humanitarian profit' makes sense.  Propaganda a company that has practiced industrial imperialism using guest workers for decades knows how to write.



* I qualify 'liberal' when I use it.  Liberals are dyed in the wool capitalists who moved humanity a great leap forward when they got rid of hereditary rule.  Unfortunately their ideas have not progressed much since the late 1790's when they chopped the head off aristocracy.  And now billionaires are a new aristocracy.  The negation of the negation.  Elements of the past.  As ideas did not progress, the ideas they replaced now consume those with arrested development as the imperfections of liberalism become apparent.  Desperation makes a horrible past seem romantic the imitation animal.

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Asians are leading the depopulation race by a substantial margin.

https://www.foreignaffairs.com/china/east-asias-coming-population-collapse

East Asia's Coming Population Collapse

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"Since 2008 until today we have lost around 200,000 newborns," she said. "Two-thirds of them are due to the fact that potential parents are missing. That's because of the decline in births that dates back to 30 years ago."

In 2023 alone the government allocated around 1 billion euros for measures aimed at helping women cope with motherhood and work.

But Ardiano Bordingnon, president of the National Forum of Families, believes this is not enough, and that an EU intervention is required.

Exactly how are they supposed to "intervene"?  Pass a law that EU women have to get pregnant or pay a fine?  What?

https://www.euronews.com/my-europe/2024/05/10/italys-falling-birth-rate-is-a-crisis-thats-only-getting-worse

Italy's falling birth rate is a crisis that's only getting worse

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The demographic breakdown I would like to know with this poll is not between men vs women's or old vs young opinions, but on rich people versus poor people.  Just based on the stories in the newz, my impression is this "problem" bothers Rich people a whole lot more than it does Poor people.  Basicall they're worried about where all the wage slaves will come from, or consumers or who will pay for their pensions.  The vast majority of people who actually have or do not have kids simply choose one or the other based on their own personal situation.  People aren't going to have kids because the society needs kids.  Its not their responsibility to make sure the grand scheme of civilization continues growing.

Despite the fact this situation is all the MSM writes about population these days, there are still a few people who realize the planet is overpppulated with homo sap meat packages.  Also that among all the possible options for population reduction, having fewer children born is the best we can do on a moral level.  The only other option is for people to die faster.  Socially if old people died younger that would be better, but generally it's considered immoral to have people die younger.  Withholding expensive medical care that keeps meat packages ticking is definitely considere imoral, along with keeping sick infants alive.  Extending the human lifespan and reducing child mortality have long been considered morally good and worthwhile goals.  The fact is, both are proximal reasons we are so far into overshoot now.


After that though, the choices get even more morally problematic, because they involve intentionally killing people.  Wars do that one, so does starving people by making food unaffordable.  No morally upright person is in favor of more war or starving people.

Of course, we have barely scratched the surface so far and this will just be getting worse by the year.  So you're gonna keep hearing about it, even though you're sick of it already.

https://www.newsweek.com/us-birth-rate-decline-opinion-poll-1900297

Americans Shrug Over Falling Birthrate

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Given all the stories over the last few years regarding the tsunami of immigrants flowing into the EU, I'm a little surprised it's not enough to even keep up with the drop in local births.  It's definitely going to wreak havoc on their social welfare and retirement programs.

Good charts and overview in this article.

https://www.ft.com/content/71a515d9-e473-48b6-a6a0-bf839d1bb41e

Has Europe already reached its demographic tipping point?

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A planet in overshoot rushing into a future of doom, and we have articles like this:

Italy's falling birth rate is a crisis that's only getting worse.

This is criminal ignorance.  A part of me wants very bad things to happen to people who promote this bullshit. 

Does that make me evil?  No actually it does the opposite.  It shows a thirst for justice.  Criminal ignorance is not without consequence.

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The ignorance is the result of conditioning.  People have been conditioned to expect perpetual growth for so long, they can't grasp this is nature's way of correcting the problem.  As corrective measures go, it's somewhat better than pandemics, famine and war, but all people see is that it threatens their retirement plans.  lol.

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[K-Dog]

A temporary problem anyhoo.  Fascist states know what to do.

Give it a little time.  And make sure condom vending machines are stocked with an 'approved' brand.

As in blessed by the Pope, holie.

[K-Dog]

The ignorance is the result of conditioning.  People have been conditioned to expect perpetual growth for so long, they can't grasp this is nature's way of correcting the problem.  As corrective measures go, it's somewhat better than pandemics, famine and war, but all people see is that it threatens their retirement plans.  lol.

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Nature's way of correcting the problem.  But people are out of touch with nature.



Cities put nature in museums.  COVID showed how good museums are at preserving things.  They close down when the fat goes, and the land gets lean. 

Now out of touch with nature, the herd has lost its way.  Fundamental knowledge about how the world works is lost.

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A temporary problem anyhoo.  Fascist states know what to do.

Give it a little time.  And make sure condom vending machines are stocked with an 'approved' brand.

As in blessed by the Pope, holie.

The leaky rubbers trick only works if the League of Mattresses actually fucks.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/article/2024/may/21/celibacy-hetrosexual-women-boysober-4b-sex-positive-feminism

Sex-positive feminism had its moment – and now it has been replaced by voluntary celibacy

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[K-Dog]

I am thinking of writing a short story where everyone in some future city has a robot significant other.  They look like real people but technically everyone is celibate and rubbing themselves with toys.  Your choices are male, female or nonbinary robot so you can choose a partner to simulate whatever mental illness you have.  If you need surgery to support a gender delusion, no problem.

The protagonists in the story can be two real people who hook up.  One of them pretends to be a robot.  To avoid trouble with the law it became necessary.

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I am thinking of writing a short story where everyone in some future city has a robot significant other.

Too late.  Already been done.

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Can you talk to a Cherry 2000 about doom without her eyes glazing over after you 'do the thing?'

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You'll need to buy the Furiosa Doom model.



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