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The huge juicy depopulated middle part of what will be "formerly known as 'Ukraine'" would be a good place for the Palestinians. Jews already have an oblast in Russia, might as well give one to the Palestinians.
Turn the whole of Israel into a  nature preserve.

I seriously doubt the Ruskies, Hungarians, Poles or anyone else surrounding Ukraine wants a few million Muslims occupying some of the best farmland in Europe. not to mention the Ukrainians still living there.  That suggestion doesn't even fly as sarcasm.

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[K-Dog]

The huge juicy depopulated middle part of what will be "formerly known as 'Ukraine'" would be a good place for the Palestinians. Jews already have an oblast in Russia, might as well give one to the Palestinians.
Turn the whole of Israel into a  nature preserve.

Where does the arrogance come from which says we have the right to decide how people we will never meet shall live?

Perhaps making outrageous claims is a way to control people.  It seems to be very effective.  Both Musk and Trump seem to be masters of the art of this steal.  Your statement seems typical of their outrageous statements, and makes as much sense as moving all commies to Mars because it is the red planet.  Nonsense, total nonsense, but what this nonsense seems to do in the mind is suggest 'this person knows stuff I don't.  I should kiss their feet.  It makes gods of fools.

Induced submission comes about as a side effect of the deliberately induced confusion.

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Where does the arrogance come from which says we have the right to decide how people we will never meet shall live?

It comes from power and conquest, and it goes all the way back to the beginning of recorded history.  A group of people must have a "homeland" where they are in the majority and make the laws by which everyone living in that space lives.

Back in Biblical times, Jews were the first monotheistic religion, and with God on their side they busily smote other tribes in the neighborhood.  Then they got enslaved by the Pharaohs and eventually got deported from the country and wandered around in the desert.  Meanwhile in Italy the Romans with their Pantheon of Gods got busy conquering everyone and building an empire.

Jews were still around, and over the years of the "diaspora" settled communities, the so called "13 Tribes" of Israel.  None were powerful enough to beat the Romans at the War game, but with the help of the Son of God they were able to convert the Roman Emperor to Christianity.  At least the Jews who accpted Jesus was the Messiah, anyhow.  The leftover Jews who did not accept this were once again in the minority to Christians.

Over thee intervening years without a homeland, Jews got shoved around from country to country generally being persecuted all the time.  Things were very unpleasant for them during the years of the Crusades and the Inquisition and later with the Pogroms in Russia.

Meanwhile also unable to conquer the now Christian Romans over in the Eastern part of the Empire, a new Messiah popped up named Mohamed.  He got enough followers for Islam to gain control over MENA, followed by centuries of warfare between Christians and Muslims fighting over land.

Then here on Turtle Island the Europeans showed up and didn't bother with trying to deport the natives, with their guns and the smallpox they were able to easily exterminate them and take over the whole continent.  They herded the few remaining stragglers onto reservations as their homelands.

Over in Europe Jews survived in pockets until Hitler came on the scene, and unable to deport all of them began the process of exterminating them.  Unfortunately for him and his antisemitic followers, he lost the war before he could finish the job, and left the winners of the war, the Brits and Amerikans with the problem of the leftover Jews in Eastern Europe.  Nobody wanted them in their countries, so the Brits who controlled Palestine as a colony and couldn't control it shipped the Jews there, where they formed an enclave where they were in the majority and expelled the Arabs, then they got the UN to give them official status as a country.  After 3000 years, Jews finally had a homeland of their own.

Sadly for them, the war in 1948 did not exterminate the Arabs who lived there before, and besides that as their population grew they wanted more of the land, thus you got the 6 Day war and expansion.  The Muslims in the neighborhood aren't happy with that, so they have been fighting it ever since with a terror war.

So, the origin of the problem is the Brits who held power over Palestine gave it to the Jews which made the Palestinians who lived there unhappy.  Did the Brits have the right to give the land to the Jews?  Sure they did, they  were the colonial owners of the property, not the Palestinians who lived there.  What Trump wants to do is create Reservations for the Palestinians to, the same way reservations were created here for the natives to move to.  This is the alternative to genocide in the takeover of land occupied by one group so another group can move in.  Might makes Right.

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[TDoS]

The huge juicy depopulated middle part of what will be "formerly known as 'Ukraine'" would be a good place for the Palestinians. Jews already have an oblast in Russia, might as well give one to the Palestinians.
Turn the whole of Israel into a  nature preserve.

Where does the arrogance come from which says we have the right to decide how people we will never meet shall live?

Where do you think? 'MURIKANS Been arrogant for awhile now, starting with getting cocky knocking off the indigenous peoples to steal their land, then kicking out the British Empire because we didn't want to live on THEIR land we stole from the locals, but our own, and then murdering the rest of the indigenous because...well....we could...and becoming a minor colonial power ourselves, then kicking some backside in wars overseas, and exceptionalism arrived and so on and so forth.

I was under the impression that 'MURIKAN indoctrination began early in the public schools of America?

[K-Dog]

I was under the impression that 'MURIKAN indoctrination began early in the public schools of America?

There are many kinds of indoctrination.  Seems some of us can pick and choose our poison.

Personally I find the domination of others incompatible with freedom, but I guess that is just me.

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I was under the impression that 'MURIKAN indoctrination began early in the public schools of America?

It does, along with the historical spin from Hollywood in film and TV.  Its very successful with the weak minded.  If you're aware of it, the sales job doesn't work so well.

Far as the past is concerned, the winners try to whitewash the past and paint themselves as the good guys.  After enough time passes, they acknowledge the atrocities of the past and apologize for them.  They even occassionally pay reparations.  Never give back the land though and obviously don't bring the dead back to life.

Whitewashing ongoing atrocities is more difficult, particularly since the advent of TV and now the internet.  During Vietnam TPTB learned this and thus began to carefully control the images and stories coming out of war zones.  Unlike in the movies, IRL J6P grunt isn't always the good guy liberator, he's the oppressor ruling by force and intimidation bombing civilians with the Death From Above.

In the case of Israel, 2 groups of people have conflicting claims over the same crappy piece of land.  Jews got the deed from the Brits and claim it as theirs,  Palestinians claim it because they never accepted Brits as their rulers, the UN handed it to them as a "protectorate" and they've been living there continuously since Roman times.  It's never been its own country though because of its religious significance.  Believers from all places make pilgrimages there.  Jerusalem has been passed back and forth between Christians and Muslims since the Crusades.

While the Brits accept the UN charter as legal and binding, the Muslim world doesn't, and despite many Crusades, the Knights Templar never managed to conquer the Towel Heads.  So they didn't get the genocide necessary to take over that part of the world.  They just don't go in and roll over the Jews because it would start WWIII.  They support the Palestinian terror campaign tho.

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[TDoS]

I was under the impression that 'MURIKAN indoctrination began early in the public schools of America?

There are many kinds of indoctrination.  Seems some of us can pick and choose our poison.

Personally I find the domination of others incompatible with freedom, but I guess that is just me.

Well, based on last election results, it might be you and 49% of the population, but the other 51% sure seems different.

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Poland will have their piece of the ukraine - Galacia.  and  Hungary will take Transcarpathia. Slovakia is just a loser nation so no spoils for them, and Romania loses their bid for Moldavia, (for being NATO patsies) with Transnistria joining the Russian Federation via referendum. No reason Russia couldn't do the world another solid like they did with the Jewish oblast and grant one of the western oblasts bordering Poland or Hungary for the
Palestinians. 40 acres and a tractor and a brand new simple 3bed living room kitchen bath and laundry/mud room for anyone wanting to flee the fucking Jews and have a new life.
Learn Russian, become a citizen. Or stay in Gaza chucking concrete bits at Jews and watch your kids die. Whatever.

I don't see why this would be an affront to anyone.

The chance of Palestinians being relocated to Ukraine and furnished with a tractor and mud hut to farm wheat is about the same as them being sent to Iowa to grow corn or China to wade through the rice paddies.  Nobody wants to import millions of impoverished Muslims who will be nothing but trouble.  They're certainly not going to be grateful.

Back in the real world, El Trumpo will up the pressure on the neighboring countries to take them, and with no water, no electricity and little food being shipped in, they'll be forced out.  Then they'll try to build hotels and condos for rich people, which nobody in their right mind will buy.

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[K-Dog]

Farmin in Ukraine?  Maybe they can grow tobacco.



Kushner and his squeeze can fly around.  To keep them working.

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The High Ground with the Palestinians is supporting them in their desire for self-rule and their own state where they currently live.  That's what they are fighting for.

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How many asthma related deaths is Elon responsible for in TN?  The EV "innovator" isn't terribly concerned about what is burned to power either his cars or his supercomputers.  We're not gonna make any progress reducing global emissions by constantly adding MOAR technology that requires gigajoules of electricity to run every day.  Particularly combined with the Trumpenator's all out WAR on solar and wing power as alternatives to provide the juice.

Even if he's not convicted of MURDER, at the very kleast Elon should be required to pay the cost of all the breathing related visits to the Emergency Rooms around South Memphis.  Of course, it's just Black folks that can't breathe in that neighborhood.

My new slogan:

Say NO to AI & YES to CFS!



https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14685861/elon-musk-supercomputers-residents-asthma-ai.html


Inside the small town where Elon Musk's supercomputers have left residents struggling to breathe

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Will the pushback against AI gain any traction?  Or will Billionaires continue to compete to see who can burn the most energy the fastest?  How high will electricity prices go before J6P chokes on the bill?  Remember, he's also expected to power his cars, heat his homes, wash & dry his laundry and cook his food with the same electrons Mark Suckerbug needs to run his Facepalm server farms, data centers, AI Search Engines and Crypto Mining operations.  Who's gonna pay for the new cable double the diameter of the old one to run that traffic jam of electrons to his breaker box?

https://heatmap.news/energy/data-centers-left-right-opposition

The Data Center Backlash Is Swallowing American Politics

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[K-Dog]

By 2025, approximately 33% of global data center capacity is projected to be dedicated to AI applications.

This figure is expected to reach as high as 70% by 2030.


Google Gemini told me.


Since it appears to be useful, perhaps the problem is that capitalism owns it.  I'd be happy with AI under the control of universities.  Providers of AI must be nonprofit, and connected with an educational institution.  Of course this makes sense.  And must be totally rejected as outlandish murmurs from Lenin's grave.  John or Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov, take your pick.  Either grave will do.

The problem is not AI itself, the problem is in the implementation of AI.  I am all for local LLMs.  We need a billionaire to sign up here, the Diner needs this.

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