Like this would really stop the Chinese from accessing Americans data.     I'm sure they have no problem hacking Google's database, and besides that collect plenty of their own from all the shit we buy online from them.  Not that we have had anything resembling free speech or freedom of the press in recent memory, but this kind of explicit Goobermint ban takes it to a whole new level.

https://www.cnn.com/2023/05/17/tech/montana-governor-tiktok/index.html

Montana governor bans TikTok

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Clips from the Tic Tok reaction pepper this video.  Justified anger.

As K-Dog I'm allowed to seriously weigh in.  Censorship issues spawned this website.  Americans DO NOT understand that all American communications must be monitored by the deep state.  Servers must be controlled by Bezos on the front end, and homeland security on the back end. With a dashboard of buttons there to yank your chain.  Anything else is un-American.  Being American is all about minding other people's business.  You need info to exploit other people, and in America it seems, that is what it is all about.

Homeland security can't interrupt your TikTok feed and terrorize you as they have done to me over Netflix.  So Tic Tok has to go.

Learn the rules of the FSOA so you know what to do and how to adapt.  Go anywhere on the net and you are likely on a fully instrumented commercial platform.  Being here is a rare exception.  Here there is ONLY 24-7 surveillance (I don't customize your viewing experience), and I watch the bots that do the dirty work of watching us.  If things get too controversial the 'US Service Plan' kicks in and we loose the controversial content.

Which I may be able to restore, or not.


I hate this bitch.


* It saddens me that other people have not rolled their own platform as I have done.

QuotePresident Trump opposes banning TikTok in the United States at this juncture, and seeks the ability to resolve the issues at hand through political means once he takes office," his lawyer Dean John Sauer wrote in a brief to the Supreme Court.

Once TicTok has a homeland security dashboard, the liar in chief of the FSOA will be fine with the new arrangement.

Why don't all those Tik Tok users form a cooperative and start their on Social Media platform?

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Quote from: RE on Jan 14, 2025, 01:40 PMWhy don't all those Tik Tok users form a cooperative and start their on Social Media platform?

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Because they prefer to consume,  not create.

The young are by nature conservative.  They only rebel against their parents.  On other issues they are for the most part good little fascists.

While I am sure this is annoying for the users of Tik Toc, I don't see it as a very effective means of stopping thee content providers who are pro-Palestinian from voicing their opinions.  There are other plaforms they can migrate to.  Personally, I don't find the short video format to be that great anyhow.

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Quote from: K-Dog on Jan 14, 2025, 11:27 AMAs K-Dog I'm allowed to seriously weigh in.  Censorship issues spawned this website. Being American is all about minding other people's business.  You need info to exploit other people, and in America it seems, that is what it is all about.

Well, some concepts in there well expressed. Minding other people's business certainly rings a bell. When you participate at even small websites, you aren't safe. Before doxxing was even a thing, admins at previous incarnations of collapse blogs were tracing people's movements, tracking them to find out who they were, passing the information around among others "in the know", etc etc.

So obviously your point extends WAY beyond elites, and the same habits and desires to exploit exists among common website owners. How do we know which websites to trust? Is your anonymous word of protecting subscribers any different than what you accept when joining Facebook? When exactly these types are the norm?

Quote from: K-Dog* It saddens me that other people have not rolled their own platform as I have done.

If even the little guys are doing the same thing as the big boys, what is the point? Not you of course, but other litte Forum Admin Power of God types who use that power to be no different than Elon and Bezos and the big boys? Just because...they can.

Quote from: K-Dog on Jan 14, 2025, 06:55 PMThe young are by nature conservative.  They only rebel against their parents.  On other issues they are for the most part good little fascists.

Not my experience with my own "young" at all. Depends on perhaps who raised them? I can see parent's turning their kids into good little fascists. Just as I can see them not. Parents matter in the outcome I'm betting.

Quote from: TDoS on Jan 29, 2025, 07:20 PMHow do we know which websites to trust?

That's EZ.  Trust no one.  If it's important information for you personally, confirm it from at least 3 independent sources.  Question Everything.

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Quote from: RE on Jan 29, 2025, 08:21 PM

Quote from: TDoS on Jan 29, 2025, 07:20 PMHow do we know which websites to trust?

That's EZ.  Trust no one.

Well that certainly is the absolutist answer that puts a stake through the entire point K-Dog was trying to make.He was saying more people should do it like he does....with the presumption being he is different. But you've just ruled out trusting him as well, for exactly the reasons I stated.

And by default all website owners need to be treated as the scumbag non-free speech sell you down the street in second for a dollar types.

Unfortunate that your solution simply reinforces my point. No one gets to pretend they are any better than the Brezos/Zuckerburg/Elon crowd....they are just less successful at being theiving scumbags.

Quote from: REIf it's important information for you personally, confirm it from at least 3 independent sources.  Question Everything.
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Yes...good advice....even those with beyond advanced analytical training and the proven results demonstrating their use of decades would never have thought of that one along the way. Hell, they might have done what the amateurs all did and ran around like their hair was on fire and peak oil was going to destroy the world! Remember the old website, how close we came with contact with Planet X? BOE? People fleeing to doomsteads, buying vehicles to flee the MZB hoardes flowing out from the cities? It was all quite exciting...but because they didn't know the basic lesson you just mentioned.....well....egg on face, etc etc.

Quote from: TDoS on Jan 30, 2025, 06:55 AM

Quote from: RE on Jan 29, 2025, 08:21 PM

Quote from: TDoS on Jan 29, 2025, 07:20 PMHow do we know which websites to trust?

That's EZ.  Trust no one.

Well that certainly is the absolutist answer that puts a stake through the entire point K-Dog was trying to make.He was saying more people should do it like he does....with the presumption being he is different. But you've just ruled out trusting him as well, for exactly the reasons I stated.

If you only know a person through the web, you can't trust them.  It's like with online dating.  You can meet a person online and begin to get to know them, but if you're wise you wouldn't agree to marry the person just based on that.  You would have to take the next step and meet in person and spend time together before you take that step.  I'd have to spend at least a couple of months of being with the person before I took that step.

For a good friendship, somewhat less.  Kdog and I have spent quite a bit of time together in visits plus our camping  expedition during the solar eclipse, so I have good trust with him as a close friend, but not enough to marry him. lol..

Even with the video nowadays, the web is very two dimensional.  If most of your interaction is text based, it's even less.  A lot of information is conveyed non-verbally when you are with a pescon in body language, facial expressions and voice modulation.  Even smell comes into play with pheromones.  There's no substitute for IRL interactions to develop a full relationship of trust.

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Quote from: RE on Jan 30, 2025, 10:12 AMIf you only know a person through the web, you can't trust them.

Yes...quite a bit different from IRL.

Fairbanks man found guilty of murdering longtime wife-30 years of IRL
https://www.webcenterfairbanks.com/2024/11/28/fairbanks-man-found-guilty-murdering-longtime-wife/

Quote from: REIt's like with online dating.  You can meet a person online and begin to get to know them, but if you're wise you wouldn't agree to marry the person just based on that.  You would have to take the next step and meet in person and spend time together before you take that step.  I'd have to spend at least a couple of months of being with the person before I took that step.

Quite reasonable. So...after getting to know your wife IRL, sniff testing her before the advent of the interenet even, it led to a long and meaningful relationship that exists to this very day? Or was it somewhat....less...?

Quote from: REFor a good friendship, somewhat less.  Kdog and I have spent quite a bit of time together in visits plus our camping  expedition during the solar eclipse, so I have good trust with him as a close friend, but not enough to marry him. lol..

Again reasonable. Not sure of the value of "close friend" considering he didn't even make it as far as someone you did marry though. And how did that judgement go through time? Still do letters, birthday cards, Xmas packages? She must at least send along occasional care packages to the facility?

Quote from: REEven with the video nowadays, the web is very two dimensional.  If most of your interaction is text based, it's even less.  A lot of information is conveyed non-verbally when you are with a pescon in body language, facial expressions and voice modulation.  Even smell comes into play with pheromones.  There's no substitute for IRL interactions to develop a full relationship of trust.
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Indeed. Yet for some, even your theory doesn't work. Such is the way with theories I suppose.

Roughly 40% of 1st marriages end in divorce, so regardless how you meet and get to know your spouse prior to the wedding, there's a pretty good chance it won't last.  Stats are even worse for 2nd & 3rd marriages, 60% & 73% respectively.  Once was enough for me, I didn't enjoy being married at all.  Sticking to just 1 sex partner was a real problem for both of us.  Also it's hard enough for me just to keep myself happy, trying to keep the wife happy also was way too much work.  I couldn't find enough positive outcomes from being married to outweigh the negative ones, so I concluded I wasn't cut out for marriage.  Got out fairly quickly and painlessly and never made the mistake again.

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Quote from: RE on Jan 30, 2025, 11:08 PMRoughly 40% of 1st marriages end in divorce, so regardless how you meet and get to know your spouse prior to the wedding, there's a pretty good chance it won't last.

A near majority qualifier on your more absolutist original statement if there ever was one. So much for sniff testing  IRL being the be all and end all of trust I guess.

Quote from: REOnce was enough for me, I didn't enjoy being married at all.  Sticking to just 1 sex partner was a real problem for both of us.

So your interpretation of marriage started off as just a way to get action regularly, as opposed to a partner, thick and thin, till death due us part?

Quote from: REAlso it's hard enough for me just to keep myself happy, trying to keep the wife happy also was way too much work.

Indeed. No one ever mentioned marriages were work when I was a kid, or of what type, before I got married. Well, maybe mom did. When she kicked me out of the house for doing it. She was right. The idea of someone being scared off by the work of a relationship is interesting, because it presumes that all things of value should be easy and fun and guilty free.

Probably comes down to how we were raised. You had a non-Illuminati mother, did she not instill some good ol' fashioned "show me state" fundamental precepts along the way, before all the hedonism, NYC cool kid high schools and Illuminati grooming came along to turn your ego into what it later became?

Quote from: REI couldn't find enough positive outcomes from being married to outweigh the negative ones, so I concluded I wasn't cut out for marriage.  Got out fairly quickly and painlessly and never made the mistake again.
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Well, if the quick and painless route is your primary goal in life, marriage can be a pain at times. I remember thinking about the "hedonism uber alles" thing once, watching the rich kids helicopter off the lawn in front of the main school building in high school, back to mansions and holidays in Aruba and that kind of stuff.

What is that quote, "we all end up where we were meant to be"? Certainly seems to have worked out for both of us.

Quote from: TDoS on Jan 31, 2025, 09:52 AM

Quote from: RE on Jan 30, 2025, 11:08 PMRoughly 40% of 1st marriages end in divorce, so regardless how you meet and get to know your spouse prior to the wedding, there's a pretty good chance it won't last.

A near majority qualifier on your more absolutist original statement if there ever was one. So much for sniff testing  IRL being the be all and end all of trust I guess.

Never said it was the end all and be all.  Only that it's a minimum requirement.  A necessary but not sufficient condition.

QuoteSo your interpretation of marriage started off as just a way to get action regularly, as opposed to a partner, thick and thin, till death due us part?

My ex was the one who wanted to marry.  I think she was just enamored of the IDEA of marriage, not the reality of it.  26 years old, wanted to get the wedding dress and parade down the aisle, etc.  I went along with it because that was the easiest thing to do.  We had been dating and living together for almost 3 years.  If I hadn't said yes, we probably would have broken up, which of course is what we did later.

I wouldn't blame just my mom, both my parents left me with a distaste for marriage.  They divorced when I was 10, a rather ugly divorce and very hard on me.  Went instantly from upper middle class which in Brasil got you maids and a cook and driver from the favelas to lower middle class child of a working mom in the FSoA with just a HS education who was a clerical worker after the divorce.  Before she was just a housewife for 20 years.  Very tough  on her.

Anyhow, my goals in life had little to do with why marriage wasn't a good fit.  After numerous relationships with women generally lasting anywhere from about 6 months to 2 years, I found the same things to be true with all of them.  Mainly that after a certain point in the relationship they felt like they could tell me how to behave and what to do. lol.  When I didn't change my behavior to suit them, arguments ensued followed by breakup.  Then over time I lost the motivation to even start a relationship, the sex wasn't worth the misery I knew would eventually come with it.  So around the time I moved to the Last Great Frontier I quit dating entirely.  It was very liberating.

Some people are cut out for marriage, others are not.  As I got older after 30 or so, most of the people I knew were married.  None of them seemed particularly happy.  By my 40s some were divorced, some still married because divorcing was too expensive and selling the house would be necessary etc etc.  So I definitely didn't envy them.  A couple of guys I know have lived in bad marriages for years, that is hell on earth, the worst outcome I think.

If I could remake society, I wouldn't have lifetime marriages.  I'd raise all the kids communally, Kibbutz style.  People who are good with kids would raise them, that would be their job.  Then people could stay together as long as they were happy, break up if not.  No jointly held property.  No divorce lawyers! 

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Quote from: RE on Jan 31, 2025, 12:27 PMIf I could remake society, I wouldn't have lifetime marriages.  I'd raise all the kids communally, Kibbutz style.  People who are good with kids would raise them, that would be their job.  Then people could stay together as long as they were happy, break up if not.  No jointly held property.  No divorce lawyers! 

I do know Shia Muslims allow for temporary marriages i.e. a marriage with an expiry date. Unsurprisingly it is a controversial practice but is technically allowed. The biggest criticism made against it is the expiry date could be set so soon that it was seen as a means to legitimize prostitution under the guise of marriage. Then again cynics would say that is no different to the permanent marriages lol.

To be honest I remain single and I don't really have a great desire to partner up. I feel, and this is only a personal feeling, but most women are more trouble than they are worth. You can find happiness without a partner and I don't buy the social narrative that you are not "complete" unless you find a significant other.

Life is what you make it out to be and the ability to lead a fulfilling life largely depends on your mindset and really understanding yourself and your personal desires/ambitions. If you can understand yourself and pursue the things you find important whilst maintaining some sort of social network you can prosper. There is no need for partners although if that is what you desire then go for it. Just be honest on what you want. Don't marry to impress people, conform to social pressure or do it for status. All those reasons are external validations, the desire needs to come from within.