Quote from: K-Dog on Mar 22, 2026, 01:27 PM

QuoteSpend my time half whacked on weed.

It could be an improvement.  A way to broaden your horizon.

I have heard the argument before. Primarily during high school when I lived in circumstances where quite a few of my friends thought it was a great way to spend some time. Drugs, booze, whatever. As might be expected I was the target of some ridicule for not participating. I can only volunteer that dad being a drunk and the consequences of it were something I expanded to include avoiding all types of drugs, alcohol, cigarettes, whatever.

Quote from: K-DogIt's much harder to be narrow-minded when you're busy trying to remember why you walked into the room in the first place and can't find the door.

It's much harder to be narrow minded when your co-workers/teachers across multiple fields of science are the best and brightest in the fiels and can be challenged into, and bested. This is done by learning what they know and using it in ways they never imagined. Certainty thorough understanding isn't being narrow minded. Certainty, proven out by future events, is just a consequence of NOT being narrow minded. It is just a consequence of applying a wide band approach to solving a problem others couldn't.

Quote from: K-DogFor some it is the secret to their success.  It is easier to think outside the box when you can't remember where the box is.

Possible I suppose. I certainly never started out with the idea to build a better mousetrap. Didn't even realize I was thinking outside of a box when I did it. It just seemed like...it made sense.

Quote from: TDoS on Mar 22, 2026, 06:36 PM

Quote from: RE on Mar 22, 2026, 10:44 AMHas to start somewhere.



RE

Of course it does. But it ain't happened yet, and all the hopes and dreams of those claiming it for decades now doesn't make it so.

When the Titanic struck the iceberg at the ship didn't immediately sink. Many passengers felt a slight jar and went back to bed. Sycophants on the upper decks carried on as if all was well.  The lights stayed on, the band played, and the champagne was cold.

Quote from: TDoS on Mar 22, 2026, 06:36 PMBut it ain't happened yet

Of course it hasn't.  You can't predict something that has already happened. 🙄

RE

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Quote from: K-Dog on Mar 22, 2026, 07:50 PMWhen the Titanic struck the iceberg at the ship didn't immediately sink. Many passengers felt a slight jar and went back to bed. Sycophants on the upper decks carried on as if all was well.  The lights stayed on, the band played, and the champagne was cold.

Indeed. But expand the time frame...allow it to cover the overarching concept of Apocalyticism, the category within which our decades of doomer experience resides within (if not centuries once religious collapsologists get involved) and the Titanic has been sinking since before you were born, before your parents were born, is still sinking, and all along the way, people have BELIEVED it will, and will die believing it. Collapse never having arrived, all along the way.

But it isn't any fun thinking of Apocalypticism instead of doom right around the corner is it?

It isn't a hobby. It isn't a cool frame work to hang websites around, without the time component, EXACTLY as you have framed it with the Titanic. DOOM IS HERE! YOU SUCKERS JUST DON'T KNOW IT! WE CLEVER FOLKS ARE IMBUED WITH KNOWLEDGE AND ARE TRYING TO WARN THOSE SMART ENOUGH TO BELIEVE AS WE DO!

Just don't mention todays doom is naught but one in a string claimed, predicted, pretended to be happening in the moment (peak oil 2005 comes to mind, Planet X is coming, Yellowstone is exploding) events. All of these are just examples on RE's websites, Apocalypticism goes back a millennium.

The Titanic angle doesn't work is someone knows any history on the overarching topic. It is no different than me using a GRB, that no one can see yet, but certainly might be coming, to do the same thing. And a GRB is FAR sexier. But hard to pitch something that hard to see...but you could try the Titanic angle for that doom the same way. And a GRB is WAY cool.

Quote from: RE on Mar 22, 2026, 09:08 PM

Quote from: TDoS on Mar 22, 2026, 06:36 PMBut it ain't happened yet

Of course it hasn't.  You can't predict something that has already happened. 🙄

RE

Sure you can. It is called a fact at that point. Peakers, amusingly enough, didn't even get it right AFTER it happened. Because it kept happening!

Quote from: TDoS on Mar 23, 2026, 05:18 PM

Quote from: RE on Mar 22, 2026, 09:08 PM

Quote from: TDoS on Mar 22, 2026, 06:36 PMBut it ain't happened yet

Of course it hasn't.  You can't predict something that has already happened. 🙄

RE

Sure you can. It is called a fact at that point. Peakers, amusingly enough, didn't even get it right AFTER it happened. Because it kept happening!

TDoS - You have one warning.  I don't want to hear another peep out of you about peak oil for 1 week.  That will be March 30th.  You will have another vacation away from the Diner if you bring it up.  I am sick of your tedious bullshit.

This thread is about an actual ongoing energy crisis, and is not about your whining never ending rant about peak oil definitions.  Which is really just a veiled way of pissing on the Diner.  You could at least find an appropriate topic to post in instead of venting your sociopathic affinity for the dark side here.

Quote from: TDoS on Mar 23, 2026, 05:18 PMSure you can. It is called a fact at that point. Peakers, amusingly enough, didn't even get it right AFTER it happened. Because it kept happening!

Facts aren't predictions.  Nor are facts always factual.  Nor are even factual facts always interpreted the same way.  In any event as Kdog points out, the thread isn't about peak oil, it's about the conditions in Cuba under the Trumpolini oil embargo.   If you have something worthwhile to say about that, feel free to post it here.  You've already been warned about going off topic to beat your dead peak oil horse.

RE

It's a little ironic that Greta Thunberg is trying to get oil into Cuba to burn. lol.

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Quote from: RE on Mar 24, 2026, 01:16 PMIt's a little ironic that Greta Thunberg is trying to get oil into Cuba to burn. lol.

RE

She knows the Cubans don't use it to live high on the hog.  It will be used for keeping hospital generators running, preserving food supplies, and maintaining basic water sanitation.  Trump cut Cuba off two months ago.  In late January Trump signed an Executive Order declaring a national emergency regarding Cuba. This authorized stiff tariffs on any country that continues to supply the island with oil, effectively creating a "total oil embargo" to pressure the Cuban government into sucking American dick.

War crime by executive order (EO 14380).

For more than six decades, Cuba has suffered the consequences of terrorist acts, organized and financed from the United States.  Cuba will outlive Trump.